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hello you are

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with witness citizen tonight on a

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and we have a great guest his name is

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steven bassett

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he um is getting his

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um equipment ready before he hops on

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with me here

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so and it shouldn't be

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too long so um i'm excited that you guys

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are here

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we're gonna have a great talk he has a

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lot to offer

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um and i can't wait to pick his brain um

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so yeah

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right when we get back it's gonna be me

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ambassador

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all right that was a cool little video i

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just put together quick i like doing

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that stuff

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it's very artistic um so without further

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ado i won't keep you

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waiting any longer i will bring the man

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of the hour here hello sir how are you

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steven bassett

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i'm fine glad to be with you yeah glad

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to be with you as well

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um it's kind of difficult to know where

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to start sometimes with someone like

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um like i have so many interests in this

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field that i

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think you've dominated already

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so but what i was really curious about

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is in may on

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coast to coast i've heard you on that

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and i think you were the first one to

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mention congressional hearings as a part

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um now we do hear rumblings of that so

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i'm curious

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on your take where it stands now

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may of when did you first hear it uh

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i heard you talk about it may of this

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year actually

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oh oh oh oh congressional hearings for

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a long time right i mean in relation to

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were talking to george about it

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yeah no one else that was a part of this

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was so i thought that was uh very

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interesting because here we are

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and they're talking about it so yeah

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uh occasionally get something right um

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essentially my contention is and i've

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reinforced i had some inside

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report that i'm on on the money the the

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the reason the two stars academy was

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created and

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of the articles and just got this ball

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rolling in a way that we've never done

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they had grabbed they had gravitas and

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and credentials

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and they'd obviously been working for

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the government for years and now

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supporting this issue and what have you

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the agenda ultimately was to get

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congressional hearings that's why they

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now if it creates a public benefit

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corporation and raises tens of millions

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of dollars it allows them to do lots of

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interesting things that's fine

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and so they had an organization because

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to the stars could have had

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contracts lucrative jobs all that kind

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gave that up at least they gave it a

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uh bring this issue to a place that had

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and and the answer to me was clear they

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they were they were going to try to get

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uh which we've been trying to get since

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donald keough one of his principal uh

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efforts in the early 1950s besides

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he wrote four books he helped form nycap

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congressional hearings on this and given

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what was being reported and what

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of our government actually at the time

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with our air force and stuff they were

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kind of communicating more than we would

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organization it had cia members on the

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directors was to make sure it didn't get

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science advisor and all this

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just wasn't going to happen

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it was blocked icap also pursued it

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engaging the planet earth you've got at

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of truth embargo formed anybody that

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congressional hearings could not happen

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place legitimate hearings with multiple

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witnesses the truth embargo would

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four people testified and that was all

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of close it all down and get by it

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a hearing on this subject and so

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every attempt to get hearing since

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he and hearings is the way this needs to

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testimony at the same time they get they

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high level testimony at the same time

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was kind of a problem but ultimately it

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truth right that's kind of silly to base

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isn't it well first of all they thought

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yeah she was considered to make asses

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if you're feeling an enormous need to

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which they didn't want to do but that

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if we're not seen as being helpful here

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if we're not out in front of this

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we're going to take a beating after the

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politicians confirm the e.t presence now

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this wasn't an official policy of the

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who came to this decision on their own

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personal decision to support creating a

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public entity of retired former members

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of the pentagon with big resumes

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and then they would do things and take

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actions that those working

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could not do and that's exactly what

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they launched on october 11th and by

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within 65 days they had delivered gotten

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would have helped ensure that the press

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was going to be relentlessly on her the

290
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moment she was in the white house

291
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and she wanted to disclose anyway it was

292
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all laid out and the whole thing is

293
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probably slam dunk by

294
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april right and so their exposure was

295
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six months

296
00:10:49,750 --> 00:10:48,640
right no problem okay yeah and then she

297
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lost

298
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why do you think ttsa kind of fell apart

299
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because if funding

300
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seems like it was the major thing there

301
00:11:02,470 --> 00:10:58,560
well what do you mean by the major thing

302
00:11:04,310 --> 00:11:02,480
the major aspect of it that

303
00:11:05,990 --> 00:11:04,320
kind of was a struggle for him i know

304
00:11:07,350 --> 00:11:06,000
tom was putting a lot of his own money

305
00:11:09,670 --> 00:11:07,360
into it

306
00:11:11,670 --> 00:11:09,680
well he that's the reason he was a ceo

307
00:11:13,750 --> 00:11:11,680
yeah they weren't going to fund it

308
00:11:14,870 --> 00:11:13,760
the dod couldn't fund it the dod didn't

309
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even know about it

310
00:11:18,470 --> 00:11:16,480
they needed a person that was on their

311
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side supportive of their idea

312
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who wasn't part of their world who had

313
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them at least the money to get things

314
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rolling

315
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and he fit the bill that's why he ended

316
00:11:31,509 --> 00:11:26,880
up ceo of the tgsa

317
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no problem excellent choice and so uh

318
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but when things went south

319
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yeah when she lost suddenly

320
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the ability to raise the kind of money

321
00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:44,959
they thought they were raised was gone

322
00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:47,760
and so now they got a huge problem they

323
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don't have

324
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that much money to to pursue stuff with

325
00:11:55,829 --> 00:11:52,959
they've got the wrong president

326
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uh political chaos is starting to

327
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immediately happen

328
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and it looks like and plus they were

329
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partially exposed in the wikileaks so

330
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that embarrassed some people

331
00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:05,600
it was it was a mess it was a it was a

332
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snafu

333
00:12:12,629 --> 00:12:10,000
yeah and so they had to step back

334
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regroup and think it through and it took

335
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them 11 months

336
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yeah before they finally decided we

337
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still have to go ahead

338
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even though they didn't raise any more

339
00:12:25,030 --> 00:12:22,160
money and so to their great credit they

340
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launched on october of 2011 i mean

341
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october 11th 2021. that's and

342
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that's so that that's the initial

343
00:12:33,030 --> 00:12:32,240
beginning of this whole thing we're

344
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seeing going down

345
00:12:36,629 --> 00:12:34,480
i would think a lot of people would just

346
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quit at that point so to not quit

347
00:12:40,069 --> 00:12:38,480
and still follow through even though the

348
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main centerpiece of your plan the

349
00:12:45,269 --> 00:12:42,079
kickoff the starting point

350
00:12:48,389 --> 00:12:45,279
didn't necessarily happen uh that's

351
00:12:50,629 --> 00:12:48,399
brave that's the way it is uh

352
00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:50,639
you know what what did they say about

353
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your

354
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match

355
00:12:58,310 --> 00:12:56,399
they go out the window the first time

356
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you get punched in the nose

357
00:13:03,509 --> 00:13:01,360
uh pretty much or or your

358
00:13:04,870 --> 00:13:03,519
your bat your strategic battle plan in

359
00:13:07,190 --> 00:13:04,880
war goes out the window

360
00:13:08,710 --> 00:13:07,200
as soon as the first shell lands you

361
00:13:10,870 --> 00:13:08,720
know yeah uh

362
00:13:11,829 --> 00:13:10,880
hey but you're you're right they did

363
00:13:14,389 --> 00:13:11,839
they they hung in

364
00:13:16,550 --> 00:13:14,399
and uh they they will get they will get

365
00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:16,560
historically acknowledged in many ways

366
00:13:21,590 --> 00:13:17,360
for that

367
00:13:23,910 --> 00:13:21,600
yeah uh on coast to coast you also

368
00:13:24,790 --> 00:13:23,920
um were saying we're like weeks months

369
00:13:27,030 --> 00:13:24,800
away from the

370
00:13:28,150 --> 00:13:27,040
end of the truth embargo are you still

371
00:13:30,790 --> 00:13:28,160
thinking that

372
00:13:31,430 --> 00:13:30,800
or have you kind of adjusted your time

373
00:13:34,949 --> 00:13:31,440
frame

374
00:13:37,269 --> 00:13:34,959
a little bit um

375
00:13:38,550 --> 00:13:37,279
technically it could have moved at a

376
00:13:41,829 --> 00:13:38,560
certain pace

377
00:13:44,230 --> 00:13:41,839
yeah uh and so i'm projecting that

378
00:13:46,829 --> 00:13:44,240
but things change and and a couple of

379
00:13:49,389 --> 00:13:46,839
things changed

380
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the the amount of

381
00:14:03,910 --> 00:13:59,990
chaos uh i think exceeded expectations

382
00:14:07,030 --> 00:14:03,920
yeah uh and i i i

383
00:14:09,269 --> 00:14:07,040
what can i say and i i don't think uh a

384
00:14:10,710 --> 00:14:09,279
a full-blown attack on the capital of

385
00:14:12,949 --> 00:14:10,720
the united states

386
00:14:14,790 --> 00:14:12,959
was uh factored even by the pentagon's

387
00:14:16,470 --> 00:14:14,800
gaming i don't think they gained that

388
00:14:18,629 --> 00:14:16,480
out they didn't see that coming

389
00:14:20,389 --> 00:14:18,639
and and and and there has been a lot of

390
00:14:21,829 --> 00:14:20,399
residual to that so that has slowed

391
00:14:24,150 --> 00:14:21,839
things down

392
00:14:26,470 --> 00:14:24,160
the pandemic was always a factor and so

393
00:14:28,069 --> 00:14:26,480
it was a matter of how quickly the uh

394
00:14:29,189 --> 00:14:28,079
vaccination program would get underway

395
00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:29,199
and how quickly people would be

396
00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:30,880
vaccinated

397
00:14:34,389 --> 00:14:33,120
it has done well it has certainly

398
00:14:37,350 --> 00:14:34,399
improved

399
00:14:38,310 --> 00:14:37,360
but the pace slower than many would have

400
00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:38,320
preferred

401
00:14:41,350 --> 00:14:40,959
and so that's a factor so between the

402
00:14:45,829 --> 00:14:41,360
the

403
00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:45,839
things have been shoved a bit

404
00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:48,480
okay but based upon the recent

405
00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:50,560
developments i think there's a

406
00:14:58,150 --> 00:14:54,959
decent chance that in mid-july

407
00:15:01,430 --> 00:14:58,160
a major committee chair will confirm

408
00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:01,440
and provide a date for the first

409
00:15:05,670 --> 00:15:04,320
uh serious hearings uh well re the first

410
00:15:08,470 --> 00:15:05,680
serious hearings ever

411
00:15:09,829 --> 00:15:08,480
and the first any hearing since 1968. i

412
00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:09,839
think that could very well happen about

413
00:15:14,870 --> 00:15:10,880
mid-july

414
00:15:17,590 --> 00:15:14,880
is that's the perfect thing to do here

415
00:15:18,389 --> 00:15:17,600
is is it not like let the american

416
00:15:21,189 --> 00:15:18,399
public

417
00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:21,199
witness this and make up their own minds

418
00:15:25,670 --> 00:15:22,800
instead of

419
00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:25,680
uneducated media for the most part or

420
00:15:30,710 --> 00:15:27,040
uninterested

421
00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:30,720
media for the most part and all these

422
00:15:34,870 --> 00:15:32,320
kind of videos and things

423
00:15:36,629 --> 00:15:34,880
circulating that you really can't make

424
00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:36,639
heads or tails of at some point

425
00:15:43,749 --> 00:15:41,680
you know you're close you're close um

426
00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:43,759
you're absolutely right there is a

427
00:15:49,189 --> 00:15:46,160
proper way to do this

428
00:15:49,829 --> 00:15:49,199
uh there always has been uh but it

429
00:15:53,269 --> 00:15:49,839
wasn't

430
00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:53,279
allowed there are many ways to do it but

431
00:15:56,629 --> 00:15:54,000
there's only one

432
00:15:58,230 --> 00:15:56,639
that is the most appropriate responsible

433
00:16:00,710 --> 00:15:58,240
you see the dod

434
00:16:02,389 --> 00:16:00,720
has no desire to give the public

435
00:16:05,189 --> 00:16:02,399
information on this

436
00:16:07,030 --> 00:16:05,199
even though i think the dod has

437
00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:07,040
concluded that the truth embargo was

438
00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:07,680
ending and

439
00:16:11,350 --> 00:16:10,800
now they need to strategize their role

440
00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:11,360
in that

441
00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:15,279
and they and do it right okay uh

442
00:16:22,629 --> 00:16:18,880
and and and one principle that's uh

443
00:16:24,629 --> 00:16:22,639
uh important here is that the dods

444
00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:24,639
cannot divulge this to the american

445
00:16:27,990 --> 00:16:25,680
people

446
00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:28,000
it's not their job it's not their

447
00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:28,880
prerogative

448
00:16:32,710 --> 00:16:31,120
in other words the dod is not the entity

449
00:16:34,629 --> 00:16:32,720
that needs to tell us about underground

450
00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:34,639
basis or crash or bodies or anything

451
00:16:36,629 --> 00:16:35,360
else

452
00:16:37,749 --> 00:16:36,639
in fact it's not even their job to

453
00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:37,759
acknowledge that it's definitely

454
00:16:41,990 --> 00:16:39,360
extraterrestrial

455
00:16:43,189 --> 00:16:42,000
uh so that's an awkward problem for them

456
00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:43,199
i mean they're maintaining the truth

457
00:16:46,550 --> 00:16:44,880
embargo so for most of the last years

458
00:16:48,150 --> 00:16:46,560
they didn't want to tell us but the fact

459
00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:48,160
is even if they didn't want to tell us

460
00:16:53,269 --> 00:16:49,680
it's not their job

461
00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:53,279
so that's awkward so you got that

462
00:16:57,829 --> 00:16:56,480
and then uh it's not the congress's job

463
00:17:01,189 --> 00:16:57,839
either

464
00:17:03,910 --> 00:17:01,199
to tell us that okay yeah so

465
00:17:05,429 --> 00:17:03,920
okay whose job is it it's the

466
00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:05,439
president's job

467
00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:08,079
that's who has to tell us okay okay how

468
00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:09,120
do you

469
00:17:16,630 --> 00:17:13,520
where the president can do this in a

470
00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:16,640
way that's politically safe and and

471
00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:18,400
responsible and and uh

472
00:17:22,230 --> 00:17:20,240
people are relatively happy as opposed

473
00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:22,240
to being very unhappy

474
00:17:28,549 --> 00:17:25,520
well this president in particular or

475
00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:28,559
this is the president on board okay okay

476
00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:31,120
yeah um they weren't prepared to do it

477
00:17:33,909 --> 00:17:32,160
under the last president

478
00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:33,919
i don't need to elaborate on that sure

479
00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:36,160
this president is fine

480
00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:40,400
so there's a lot of

481
00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:43,840
uh moving parts here it's really turned

482
00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:46,160
into a three-dimensional chess game a

483
00:17:49,990 --> 00:17:48,000
multi-player three-dimensional chess

484
00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:50,000
game there are multiplayer chess games

485
00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:52,400
out there you can actually buy one

486
00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:55,520
more people are playing chess in a much

487
00:18:00,950 --> 00:17:57,200
bigger board

488
00:18:02,630 --> 00:18:00,960
that's great i play i know one

489
00:18:03,830 --> 00:18:02,640
anybody can be an expert because i'm

490
00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:03,840
pretty sure they haven't worked out all

491
00:18:09,510 --> 00:18:05,200
those damn moves yet

492
00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:09,520
so um so here are the players the dod is

493
00:18:14,789 --> 00:18:10,640
a player

494
00:18:17,029 --> 00:18:14,799
service is

495
00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:17,039
separate or a player the public is a

496
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:17,840
player

497
00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:23,760
trying to quote play this chess game and

498
00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:24,480
get a

499
00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:27,600
proper outcome but how that was going to

500
00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:28,080
go down

501
00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:31,200
wasn't totally clear but what we do know

502
00:18:37,029 --> 00:18:34,080
is that the congress is being prepared

503
00:18:39,430 --> 00:18:37,039
for briefings by mellon

504
00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:39,440
lots of meetings on the hill private no

505
00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:41,200
press no press release

506
00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:43,600
witnesses were being accumulated by

507
00:18:47,190 --> 00:18:45,360
elizondo

508
00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:47,200
and by that is he was being approached

509
00:18:52,150 --> 00:18:49,280
by scores of military witnesses

510
00:18:53,029 --> 00:18:52,160
like david fraber some not as

511
00:19:00,470 --> 00:18:53,039
significant

512
00:19:01,510 --> 00:19:00,480
and wanting to know well can can you use

513
00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:01,520
this

514
00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:03,600
right because they realize from what

515
00:19:09,270 --> 00:19:04,720
happened in

516
00:19:11,270 --> 00:19:09,280
in 2017 uh in those 65 days from october

517
00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:11,280
11th to

518
00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:14,240
december the 16th that apparently it was

519
00:19:17,510 --> 00:19:16,000
okay now to come forward

520
00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:17,520
the bar had been lowered the door was

521
00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:20,960
open right fravor was a hero

522
00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:23,360
nobody was getting bothered they might

523
00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:24,160
not be happy

524
00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:27,120
but uh it was it was all being well

525
00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:28,400
received so hey i

526
00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:30,320
i can come forward too but what do you

527
00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:32,000
do if you're somebody like that

528
00:19:34,870 --> 00:19:33,200
are you going to call up the new york

529
00:19:36,150 --> 00:19:34,880
times and say hey i got a story just as

530
00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:36,160
good as the one you got

531
00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:39,200
let me talk to you yeah

532
00:19:43,270 --> 00:19:41,919
you call lou of course you call lou who

533
00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:43,280
also get a call

534
00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:47,200
so a lot of witnesses accumulating

535
00:19:50,549 --> 00:19:49,440
members of key committees being briefed

536
00:19:52,870 --> 00:19:50,559
obviously that's moving towards

537
00:19:56,909 --> 00:19:52,880
disclosure but again this is during the

538
00:19:59,830 --> 00:19:56,919
last administration this went on in 2018

539
00:20:01,990 --> 00:19:59,840
2019 and i think it tried to continue on

540
00:20:02,870 --> 00:20:02,000
and a little bit in 2020 but then we had

541
00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:02,880
a

542
00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:08,320
coming right the only thing we didn't

543
00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:09,200
have is

544
00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:12,720
is the return of the dinosaurs

545
00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:15,919
some sort of you know jurassic world

546
00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:17,840
thing or a giant meteorite impact that's

547
00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:19,520
the only thing that didn't happen

548
00:20:26,789 --> 00:20:22,960
not yet uh so

549
00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:26,799
that complicated it but

550
00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:30,880
they they they they slow walked but made

551
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:32,320
slow progress during this

552
00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:35,679
uh uncertain period but then at some

553
00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:36,799
point

554
00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:39,520
they began and and by and large the guys

555
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:41,120
inside the pentagon and

556
00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:43,840
they they have a a lot of resources they

557
00:20:46,870 --> 00:20:45,440
probably kind of figured out who they

558
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:46,880
how they thought how the election was

559
00:20:49,909 --> 00:20:48,799
going to go before we did

560
00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:49,919
so i think they concluded there was

561
00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:52,480
going to be a change of administration

562
00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:55,760
which would solve some of the political

563
00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:57,520
issues that might prevent these things

564
00:21:00,789 --> 00:20:59,360
from going properly

565
00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:00,799
and they also were able to kind of

566
00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:02,640
project okay how's the vaccination

567
00:21:05,909 --> 00:21:04,720
program going how many vaccinations by

568
00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:05,919
such and such

569
00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:07,440
what's the pandemic going to look like

570
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:09,679
in april may june july august so forth

571
00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:10,080
and

572
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:13,919
calculate okay overall it looks like

573
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:15,520
things are getting favorable so the pace

574
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:17,520
started picking up

575
00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:19,760
all right so much was happening i could

576
00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:21,440
not chronicle it fast enough

577
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:22,960
right now on my website paradigm

578
00:21:25,750 --> 00:21:24,880
researchgroup.org under resources you

579
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:25,760
can find

580
00:21:30,470 --> 00:21:28,640
1 000 articles just about the ttsa and

581
00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:30,480
these events that we're referring to

582
00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:33,280
1 000 mainstream articles in the last

583
00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:34,640
three and a half years the washington

584
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:36,080
post has printed 36

585
00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:38,640
articles on the uap phenomena the new

586
00:21:45,029 --> 00:21:41,440
york times has printed 26.

587
00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:45,039
those 36 articles is twice as many

588
00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:47,120
i mean it took the washington post

589
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:49,280
rather the previous six

590
00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:52,400
years to to write that many articles on

591
00:21:55,190 --> 00:21:53,360
the uap issue

592
00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:55,200
and the articles the recent articles are

593
00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:57,520
more powerful so you see we have entered

594
00:22:04,470 --> 00:21:59,760
a whole another place right

595
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,669
things started picking up

596
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:10,950
and then the question was okay

597
00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:13,200
if the congress has been briefed all

598
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:14,080
right if there's

599
00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:17,520
witnesses available that's

600
00:22:23,110 --> 00:22:20,559
fine but does that mean

601
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:23,120
oh you're just going to get hearings not

602
00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:24,799
necessarily

603
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:28,000
and by the way the pentagon is sitting

604
00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:29,440
over there

605
00:22:34,190 --> 00:22:31,760
and if you don't factor them in then

606
00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:34,200
essentially you're moving

607
00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:36,960
unilaterally to get hearings that might

608
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:38,080
lead to disclosure

609
00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:39,679
and the pentagon would be out in the

610
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:41,200
cold

611
00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:42,400
and they don't want to be out in the

612
00:22:46,149 --> 00:22:44,320
cold in fact that's why groups within

613
00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:46,159
the pentagon not not official

614
00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:48,480
but unofficial people unofficial project

615
00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:49,360
was made

616
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:51,200
during the pentagon to create the ttsa

617
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:52,480
in the first place

618
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:56,320
really so what do you do okay well look

619
00:23:00,070 --> 00:22:57,919
in spite of what people think is a lot

620
00:23:00,950 --> 00:23:00,080
of very smart politicians on capitol

621
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:00,960
hill

622
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,360
not all of them act smart and some of

623
00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:05,360
them are just plain dumb but believe me

624
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:07,200
there are some very smart people

625
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:09,360
up on the hill some of which who want to

626
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:11,280
run for president

627
00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:13,440
and one of them who absolutely is going

628
00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:15,919
to run for president is marco rubio

629
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:17,840
and rubio was a ranking member of the

630
00:23:21,669 --> 00:23:19,520
senate intel committee

631
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:21,679
which is considered the number one

632
00:23:27,190 --> 00:23:23,760
committee in congress it's like the

633
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:27,200
top all right big position

634
00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:28,799
and we know that he and warner got

635
00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:30,559
briefed in fact it's very possible and a

636
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:32,080
lot more likely than not that the whole

637
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:33,840
intel committee sent an intimate cut

638
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:35,520
brief it's not a lot of people like 12

639
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:37,679
people so listen here

640
00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:40,400
but now vice president harris was she a

641
00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:41,120
part of that

642
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:43,600
at one point i thought she was no no

643
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:45,679
okay so

644
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:55,029
made a decision to make a what i

645
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:56,880
consider a brilliant strategic

646
00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:00,240
move he's kind of the

647
00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:03,039
after things were sort of put in place

648
00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:03,360
but

649
00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:06,159
it wasn't clear where to go next rubio

650
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:07,600
decided where to go next

651
00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:10,799
all right well and so what he did is in

652
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:11,279
july

653
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:17,990
he decides when they're putting together

654
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:19,919
the defense intelligence appropriations

655
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:20,559
bill

656
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:22,080
let's put some language in the comment

657
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:24,880
section calling for a report

658
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:28,240
from the department of defense

659
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:30,720
uh and also through this recently

660
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:33,360
created uap task force at the

661
00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:40,710
um do you think that's meaningful

662
00:24:42,789 --> 00:24:41,279
because

663
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:42,799
through my studies and i'm sure you know

664
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:44,799
much more but i'm just getting into the

665
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:47,039
documents and all that from the 50s

666
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:49,039
and it seems like there has always been

667
00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:50,480
a group

668
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,720
studying this thing well no it's

669
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:54,559
meaningful in a sense of the strategy

670
00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:58,000
ftd all that stuff strategically it's

671
00:25:02,070 --> 00:24:59,679
meaningful

672
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:02,080
is it representative of the reality no

673
00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:03,679
they've been they've been studying et

674
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:05,919
since 47 they never stop studying it

675
00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:07,760
right it's all it's all in in fully

676
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:10,159
classified usap programs

677
00:25:13,909 --> 00:25:12,000
and they can't talk about those so

678
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:13,919
everything you're seeing now is a public

679
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:15,840
relations effort it's a show it's a

680
00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:17,200
theater being put on

681
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:20,559
to achieve an end a a good end but it

682
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:21,679
cannot engage

683
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:23,440
the fully classified world that's been

684
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:24,640
dealing with this issue because that's

685
00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:26,159
off limits that's embargo

686
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:27,919
right again i i'm saying

687
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:29,520
three-dimensional chess not regular

688
00:25:33,909 --> 00:25:30,880
chess

689
00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:33,919
so rubio makes this brilliant strategy

690
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:35,360
let's put the language in this bill

691
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:37,200
calling for

692
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:39,840
uh an analysis a report about the status

693
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:41,120
of things you know

694
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:43,200
not not a demand that they they bring

695
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:44,640
the rockefeller i mean the

696
00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:47,120
iraq they bring the roswell wreckage

697
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,880
into the senate intelligence committee

698
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:50,480
chamber all right you know

699
00:25:54,070 --> 00:25:52,159
and then put the bodies in the back of

700
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:54,080
the room no no no it was for uh

701
00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:56,240
assessment and what you in other words

702
00:26:00,549 --> 00:25:58,720
it's a maneuver

703
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:00,559
and he puts it in july so the so the

704
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:03,440
pentagon as early as july of 2020 knows

705
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:04,640
that apparently they're going to have to

706
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:06,720
come up with a report

707
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:11,279
okay now the language also stated that

708
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:15,360
the there would be 168 day

709
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:18,320
period to put that report together and

710
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:19,360
it had to be uh

711
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:21,760
delivered by then from the signing of

712
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:22,559
the bill

713
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:25,840
right away and rubio knew that it wasn't

714
00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:27,840
to sign until december and the signed

715
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:28,480
and that's

716
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:31,760
that set the deadline at june 25.

717
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:34,480
so the deadline ain't you know so he

718
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:35,679
brings this up in july

719
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:37,440
the deadline is not going to be until

720
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:39,520
much later turned out to be july 29th

721
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:41,919
2021. he's getting all this positive

722
00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:43,760
press he's out in front of the issue

723
00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:45,360
further ahead of the issue than anybody

724
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:47,279
else in both houses of congress

725
00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:49,840
definitely on a nonpartisan issue that's

726
00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:51,600
got worldwide interest

727
00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:54,640
this is a very smart guy okay brilliant

728
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:55,279
move

729
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:02,710
so what happens after that of course is

730
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:04,880
that the press starts focusing on this

731
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:06,799
potential report this potential report

732
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:08,080
the public's getting

733
00:27:15,029 --> 00:27:12,000
excited and interesting and and and uh

734
00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:15,039
and investing a lot of uh interest and

735
00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:16,880
emotion and the prospects here it could

736
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:18,159
be disclosure or whatever okay it

737
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:19,600
doesn't matter to rubio he's getting a

738
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:20,080
lot of

739
00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:24,159
wasn't up for election in 2020 he was

740
00:27:27,269 --> 00:27:25,679
completely safe this was a

741
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:27,279
perfectly safe maneuver that put him

742
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:29,440
ahead of the biggest issue in history

743
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:34,880
right okay so far so good whatever works

744
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:39,520
and so time goes by

745
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:42,240
uh various things are happening i'm

746
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:43,440
getting we're getting

747
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,120
an increased level of press right

748
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:50,159
but then the election takes place the

749
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,919
new administration is confirmed

750
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:53,440
not only a new administration but a new

751
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:55,600
house and senate and by the way that is

752
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:58,000
very important

753
00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:59,520
if you're going to hold hearings or if

754
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:00,960
you're going to try to get congress to

755
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:02,320
hold hearings which are clearly

756
00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:03,679
controversial

757
00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:05,919
and there could be resistance it's much

758
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:06,799
better if

759
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:08,880
the one party holds both houses because

760
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:10,559
if it's not the case

761
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:12,480
then you've got one party in the house

762
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:14,159
say and you're trying to get those

763
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:15,440
chairs to hold a committee

764
00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:17,440
and then you've got another party in the

765
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:18,559
in the senate

766
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:20,000
and their attitude is well if they're

767
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:21,200
holding a hearings we're not holding

768
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:22,320
hearings right

769
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:24,880
whatever they're doing is nonsense so

770
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:26,399
we're not going to participate and so

771
00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:27,760
now you've got this problem

772
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:31,200
that problem goes away and so now

773
00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:34,240
as of november 4 it's time to start

774
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:37,440
picking up speed right and so you i'm

775
00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:38,880
sure you got a lot of behind-the-scenes

776
00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:40,399
stuff going on

777
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:43,760
right and of course the day

778
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,070
and that's what takes us to today now

779
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:54,950
let's be clear there are smart people in

780
00:29:01,590 --> 00:28:56,320
the congress

781
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:03,350
smarter people in every intelligence

782
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:05,360
agency we got including the office of

783
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:06,799
naval intelligence

784
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:08,799
not only that they're smart they've got

785
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:11,039
resources really big computers

786
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:13,200
and they've spent most of their careers

787
00:29:18,149 --> 00:29:16,320
gaming scenarios that's what they do

788
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:18,159
what happens if this country succeeds

789
00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:19,440
from that republic

790
00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:21,840
what happens if a of a nuclear attack or

791
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:23,600
a terrorist bomb goes off here as

792
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:24,640
opposed to there

793
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:27,279
they gain everything out have you heard

794
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:28,960
of the watch committee

795
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:31,520
the watch committee yeah no what's that

796
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:34,240
uh the watch committee was born in 47

797
00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:35,760
it's the heads of all the different

798
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:37,600
intelligences of the branches of

799
00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:38,960
military

800
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:41,520
they were developed to get the first

801
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:42,960
warning of an imminent

802
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,399
attack okay um and they could

803
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:48,240
withhold evidence from the other

804
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:49,840
agencies if you know

805
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:53,200
so be it part of the early intelligence

806
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:54,480
complex it was being built in the

807
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:55,600
national security state

808
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:57,440
that that has now been involved to an

809
00:30:01,750 --> 00:29:59,679
incredibly sophisticated deal

810
00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:01,760
involving all kinds of stuff computers

811
00:30:06,149 --> 00:30:02,720
everything else

812
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:06,159
so so these are very smart so they had

813
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:07,440
and this is something people are not

814
00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:08,000
thinking about

815
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:10,240
the reporters are not talking about the

816
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:12,080
department of defense had a

817
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:15,520
full year to decide

818
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:17,600
how strategically they were going to

819
00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:20,000
handle the situation that was presented

820
00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:20,799
to them

821
00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:23,360
and i assure you they didn't sit around

822
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:24,159
playing

823
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:27,120
you know holden poker watching home

824
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:27,919
movies

825
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:29,760
until the last minute and then they

826
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:32,159
decided to throw something together

827
00:30:36,149 --> 00:30:35,600
they put together a brilliant strategy

828
00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:36,159
on how

829
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:39,279
to deal with this which because most

830
00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:40,480
people are not looking at the big

831
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:42,159
picture they just see the latest article

832
00:30:44,950 --> 00:30:43,520
and they go i don't get that what does

833
00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:44,960
that mean and they come up with false

834
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:45,919
conclusions

835
00:30:52,389 --> 00:30:49,279
i i get it they have lives i don't

836
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:52,399
my job is to follow this 24 7

837
00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:56,000
7 days a week so

838
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:59,760
here is the strategy they came up with

839
00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:01,919
and it's just as impressive as you

840
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:05,360
expected it would be

841
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:08,640
first of all the department of defense

842
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:09,120
wants

843
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:12,399
nothing to do with providing any

844
00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:15,360
information to the american people about

845
00:31:19,509 --> 00:31:16,840
this

846
00:31:21,549 --> 00:31:19,519
subject the last time

847
00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:21,559
they provided any information was the

848
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:24,320
1997 press conference when they

849
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:26,880
reaffirmed the mogul balloon explanation

850
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:28,080
for roswell

851
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:30,960
and tried to confirm convince the press

852
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:32,399
that the grace

853
00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:34,320
four-foot craze that people kept saying

854
00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:36,159
they were seeing were in fact

855
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:38,320
six foot test dummies dropped by the air

856
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:40,320
force with air force uniforms on

857
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:42,000
and that they had gotten the years

858
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:44,080
compressed due to a phenomenon called

859
00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:45,519
time compression

860
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:48,080
where years later something you thought

861
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:51,120
you saw in 47 you actually saw in 52

862
00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:53,200
and the press basically barked up fur

863
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:55,120
balls and laughed and

864
00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:57,760
and uh and then the next day marine dowd

865
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:58,640
wrote

866
00:32:01,909 --> 00:32:00,799
uh one of i think only two columns she's

867
00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:01,919
ever written on this issue where

868
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:03,200
basically said that that press

869
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:04,480
conference was a complete load of

870
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:04,960
[\h__\h]

871
00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:08,000
well i mean dr lopez from los alamos had

872
00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:10,080
a study project twinkle where they were

873
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:12,320
looking at these things as meteorites so

874
00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:13,360
that already

875
00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:16,399
you can say you're lying to us otherwise

876
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:18,159
why did you have that project

877
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:21,600
so they so that was their example of

878
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:22,880
telling the people they don't they

879
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:23,760
cannot tell

880
00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:26,320
the people anything real but rubio said

881
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:28,159
we need we need a public and a

882
00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:31,120
classified report to the and in a public

883
00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:32,240
report

884
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:35,440
all by 180 days well

885
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:37,760
yeah i don't want to do that okay so how

886
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:38,640
do we handle this

887
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:40,480
all right we can't do besides it's not

888
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:42,000
our prerogative

889
00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:43,760
it is not the prerogative of the

890
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:45,519
department of defense to tell us about

891
00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:46,720
the et stuff

892
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:50,320
period that is not their job right

893
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:53,600
their job is to defend the country

894
00:32:58,630 --> 00:32:56,399
and to inform the president of things

895
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:58,640
and the president makes policy

896
00:33:02,789 --> 00:33:01,039
and telling the people about the et is a

897
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:02,799
policy matter

898
00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:04,960
and so they don't want to do it what

899
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:08,880
they want to do is pass it to congress

900
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:11,200
now congress is not want to tell the

901
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:12,799
people about it because it's not their

902
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:14,799
prerogative either

903
00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:16,559
their prerogative is to try to get

904
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:18,559
information that they could use

905
00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:21,679
for legislation

906
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:24,080
okay and so forth but in the process of

907
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:26,480
that learning that information

908
00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:28,399
the president also may learn that

909
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:30,000
information and the president can make a

910
00:33:35,110 --> 00:33:31,919
decision

911
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:35,120
because it's the only entity in this

912
00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:35,760
country

913
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:37,440
that has the prerogative to end this

914
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:39,679
troop embargo and tell that kind of

915
00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:40,480
information

916
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:42,159
is the executive branch of this

917
00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:43,600
government which is headed by the

918
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:44,320
president

919
00:33:50,830 --> 00:33:48,720
because if the chief of staff

920
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:50,840
or one of the secretaries in the front

921
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:53,600
office uh decide they want to tell them

922
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:55,600
that's the end of their career and their

923
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:56,640
legacy

924
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:58,240
and well they need to move to another

925
00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:00,320
state change your name so that's the way

926
00:34:02,950 --> 00:34:01,840
it has to work now the thing is that's

927
00:34:05,669 --> 00:34:02,960
fine but how do you

928
00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:05,679
get it to work okay here's how they're

929
00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:06,080
doing

930
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:09,200
it to service all these things i've just

931
00:34:15,349 --> 00:34:11,520
mentioned

932
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:15,359
here's how you do it okay

933
00:34:20,710 --> 00:34:18,960
first of all as rubio intended

934
00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:20,720
months go by and the press interest

935
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:23,119
grows and grows and grows and the public

936
00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:24,720
interest grows and grows and grows so

937
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:26,960
there's a lot of interest in this quote

938
00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:28,399
report

939
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:30,879
and people have figured out the deadline

940
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:32,240
it's nothing but math

941
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:35,919
june 25. so the emphasis is on june 25

942
00:34:42,149 --> 00:34:39,359
okay and that's what you want

943
00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:42,159
so what do you do you put together the

944
00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:43,359
classified

945
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:47,359
annex and you deliver that to congress

946
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:50,720
on the 16th or 17th

947
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:53,440
over two days you pick four key

948
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:54,240
committees

949
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:56,240
house intel senate intel house armed

950
00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:57,599
services senate armed services

951
00:35:01,829 --> 00:34:59,359
represents about 100 members of congress

952
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:01,839
that's a lot of members of

953
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:05,040
and you deliver them and you provide a

954
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:06,960
briefing along with it

955
00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:08,480
we know who briefed the house it's not

956
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:09,920
clear who briefed the senate but

957
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:12,000
different groups

958
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:15,280
and guess what didn't get a lot of

959
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:16,800
attention

960
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:18,720
the the press mentioned that there was a

961
00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:20,160
classified report what else they gonna

962
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:21,040
say

963
00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:22,320
it's classified they haven't got the

964
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:23,599
information they just mentioned it

965
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:25,040
happened didn't get much attention at

966
00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:26,320
all

967
00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:28,000
the attention was still focused on the

968
00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:30,079
public report which is due the 25th

969
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:32,800
right and so the private report comes in

970
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:34,160
the door

971
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:36,160
and now it's in the hands of these

972
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:38,240
people to review and consider

973
00:35:42,829 --> 00:35:40,320
without a lot of public chasing them

974
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:42,839
around or the press bothering them

975
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:46,800
perfect but they did more than that

976
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:49,920
just prior to well not just prior

977
00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:53,359
about 13 days or two weeks prior

978
00:36:00,069 --> 00:35:57,920
to delivering the classified report

979
00:36:01,589 --> 00:36:00,079
somebody conveniently leaked to the new

980
00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:01,599
york times what

981
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:04,880
was in the unclassified report

982
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:07,040
this was an intentional leak what did we

983
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:08,640
want to call it

984
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:11,440
absolutely and obviously was from a

985
00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:12,960
strong source and the

986
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:15,680
new york times published it and what

987
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:16,960
they did in that

988
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:20,240
leak was to mention

989
00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:23,359
the two key things right

990
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:25,920
would be in the public report ahead of

991
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:27,119
time

992
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:30,720
and those two things were that

993
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:32,880
the public report was going to conclude

994
00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:34,000
that

995
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,280
the all the study of the 140 cases going

996
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:39,440
back to 2004

997
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:41,440
uh they did not see the evidence for

998
00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:43,280
extraterrestrial

999
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:47,119
and two nevertheless the technology

1000
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:49,119
exhibited by these craft in these

1001
00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:49,920
reports

1002
00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:53,599
nimitz was not something that the u.s

1003
00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:55,680
had in its possession

1004
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:57,040
now these are pretty significant

1005
00:37:02,069 --> 00:36:58,800
statements

1006
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:02,079
but not extraterrestrial and

1007
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:04,000
we don't have it doesn't mean the

1008
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:05,440
chinese don't have it

1009
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:07,280
doesn't mean the russians don't have it

1010
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:09,040
it's just that we don't have it we're a

1011
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:09,839
private company

1012
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:11,040
because they did say they couldn't

1013
00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:14,240
confirm if that was the case or not

1014
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:16,079
yeah maybe even a private company though

1015
00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:18,000
that's even stupider than the chinese of

1016
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:19,119
the russians the point is

1017
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:23,040
is that is that um

1018
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:25,440
they haven't exposed themselves they've

1019
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,640
said very little

1020
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:28,320
they certainly haven't touched on the et

1021
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:31,200
issue and they've put the focus on the

1022
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:33,200
public report and that's exactly what

1023
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:33,920
happens

1024
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:36,960
for the next 22 days everything is on

1025
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:39,119
the public report the media

1026
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:40,800
is there the public is there the social

1027
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:43,200
media is there and virtually no one is

1028
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:44,960
talking about the class of finance

1029
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:46,720
because well it's classified

1030
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,720
we don't know and so what are you going

1031
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:50,800
to do okay

1032
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:53,839
so for the next nine days the

1033
00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:56,720
members of the house and senate uh

1034
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:57,599
committees

1035
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:00,320
that were given this briefing had nine

1036
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:02,640
days to reflect and study and think

1037
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:04,720
about this report without being bothered

1038
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:05,839
and so forth

1039
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:08,960
okay right excellent no problem

1040
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:12,240
okay so now

1041
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:15,359
the 25th arrives

1042
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:19,440
and the dod its preference i think would

1043
00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:21,520
have been to say

1044
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:24,560
look um we

1045
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:25,920
you know we delivered a classified

1046
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:28,240
report but we we can't really give you a

1047
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:29,839
public report at this time that was not

1048
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:31,040
going to fly

1049
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:33,440
there was way too much expectation way

1050
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:34,880
too much anticipation

1051
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:36,560
if they had done that it would have gone

1052
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:38,079
badly

1053
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:40,720
one thing i wanted you know i noticed

1054
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:42,400
this but couldn't really talk to anybody

1055
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:43,440
about it to get any

1056
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:46,560
uh clarification on it so when this

1057
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:48,560
report was mandated i went in and did my

1058
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:49,200
homework

1059
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:51,839
on how this stuff works reports public

1060
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:54,240
unclassified all that stuff and i

1061
00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:56,480
saw that they can actually make public

1062
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:57,680
annexes

1063
00:39:01,750 --> 00:39:00,000
in these reports so what was curious to

1064
00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:01,760
me is that they didn't

1065
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:04,400
but yet it was made public right away

1066
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:06,160
because i know you have to approve it

1067
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:07,920
even though it's unclassified

1068
00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:10,320
well look i mean it had to be approved

1069
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:12,320
the point is it's either classified or

1070
00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:14,400
it's unclassified if it's unclassified

1071
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:15,599
and gets approved it's going to the

1072
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:16,560
public domain

1073
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:19,440
that's just like an automatic so

1074
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:20,400
obviously so

1075
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:23,280
obviously and not to mention the fact

1076
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:24,400
that the last thing you want to do is

1077
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:25,760
dump a bunch of stuff into the

1078
00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:27,520
congress's hands the same time you give

1079
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:28,160
it to the

1080
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:29,839
give something else to the public and

1081
00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:31,359
the congress has looked at the stuff and

1082
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:32,720
they got all these press coming in

1083
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,960
so they had nine days that's a good

1084
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:36,880
strategy so now they put out the public

1085
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:37,680
thing well it's it's

1086
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:40,880
six pages of of dod speak and a bunch of

1087
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:42,400
acronyms

1088
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:45,280
and some interesting points there that

1089
00:39:48,630 --> 00:39:46,880
if you're

1090
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:48,640
you're savvy on the subject you can kind

1091
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:50,400
of go oh that's interesting but the vast

1092
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:52,160
majority are going to go

1093
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:53,760
there's nothing here and that's exactly

1094
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:54,880
what they said it's it's we're

1095
00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:56,079
disappointed it's not

1096
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,440
right they're holding on blah blah and

1097
00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:59,280
they're all bitching complaining

1098
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:01,359
but you see the dmd didn't have any

1099
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:03,520
choice they could they had to put

1100
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:04,079
something

1101
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:07,520
out now they may they they may have been

1102
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:08,960
an unforced era

1103
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:11,680
but overall i think long term it's it's

1104
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:14,480
exactly what they needed to do

1105
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:16,800
so they gave us very little but what

1106
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:18,800
they gave us what are was already

1107
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:20,319
confirmed by the leak

1108
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:23,359
back in 2000 and june 3rd so it's

1109
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:24,720
consistent

1110
00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:27,280
no fooling around here it matches the

1111
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:28,160
leak

1112
00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:31,440
okay and okay

1113
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:34,160
now we know that prior to that report

1114
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:34,960
being

1115
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:38,640
uh released there was already rumors

1116
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:41,920
elizondo brought these into play that uh

1117
00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:43,359
they were thinking about asking for an

1118
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:46,079
extension anymore

1119
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:50,079
okay well they could have done that but

1120
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:50,960
let's face it

1121
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:53,359
it would not have gone over very well

1122
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:54,000
not at

1123
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:57,119
all and so they compromised

1124
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:59,680
they put out this very limited report

1125
00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:01,440
that wasn't going to cause the dod

1126
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:03,359
much of a problem though it would kind

1127
00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:05,440
of service the savvy of us

1128
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:07,839
that know yeah that's kind of confirmed

1129
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:08,480
what

1130
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:13,040
really saying is

1131
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:14,720
uh we're not saying it's

1132
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:16,160
extraterrestrial but it's

1133
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:16,960
extraterrestrial

1134
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:19,920
okay very shortly after the report was

1135
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:21,040
delivered they uh

1136
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:22,880
put out a statement that there would be

1137
00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:25,200
another report in 90 days

1138
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:27,440
which of course takes the angst out kind

1139
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:29,839
of so if they had just delayed it not

1140
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:31,520
good but they put out six pages then

1141
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:33,040
they asked for 90 more days this is

1142
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:34,000
perfect

1143
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:36,400
is it really about that is it really

1144
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:38,079
about give us 90 more days in order to

1145
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:39,520
give you a bunch of public stuff no it's

1146
00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:41,040
not about that they don't want to give

1147
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:41,359
you

1148
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:44,000
any public stuff it just bought them

1149
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:44,960
time

1150
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:50,640
and held

1151
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:52,640
which makes a 90-day report down the

1152
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:55,200
line completely moot

1153
00:42:02,790 --> 00:41:59,760
all right so where we are now

1154
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:02,800
is that the senate

1155
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:04,319
and house committees had it for nine

1156
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:06,560
days now they got

1157
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:09,599
a bit lucky here because there was a

1158
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:12,079
a coincidence that was not strategically

1159
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:18,950
the deadline was purely predicated on

1160
00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:20,720
the signing of the bill

1161
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:22,640
and as it happened the bill was signed

1162
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:25,599
so the deadline was june the 25th

1163
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:27,760
guess what the senate goes into recess

1164
00:42:31,829 --> 00:42:29,680
on the 26th

1165
00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:31,839
and so now the senate is out until the

1166
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:33,599
12th of july

1167
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:37,359
which is 16 more days so now the senate

1168
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:38,640
and by the way the senate intel

1169
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,480
committee is the key committee

1170
00:42:43,829 --> 00:42:42,160
congress has stayed in session for a

1171
00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:43,839
while but and they're not doing anything

1172
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:44,960
the senate's gone they're

1173
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:46,480
they're they're dealing with other stuff

1174
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:48,000
there is plenty of other stuff

1175
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,680
but it's the senate and kel committee is

1176
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:51,599
the key committee

1177
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:53,760
and so they're actually going to have

1178
00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:55,280
nine plus 12

1179
00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:59,280
21 days to review and think about what

1180
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:01,119
to do about this classified report

1181
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:04,640
without any being bothered

1182
00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:09,040
perfect so they come back on the 12.

1183
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:13,599
will the senate intel committee

1184
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:15,040
and the senate armed services committee

1185
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:17,359
both of them have had

1186
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,200
more than enough time by the 12th of

1187
00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:21,280
july to decide whether hearings are

1188
00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:22,480
called for

1189
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:24,800
uh based on what they got back on the

1190
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,000
16th of uh june

1191
00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:28,640
absolutely it's a way to take the burden

1192
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:29,359
off of them

1193
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:31,119
they put it out there engage the

1194
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:32,400
public's interest and

1195
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:34,319
how they feel about it and take it from

1196
00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:36,160
there i would imagine if it's convincing

1197
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:37,839
overwhelming then they go

1198
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:40,960
then it's you know

1199
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:42,000
it doesn't have to be convincing about

1200
00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:43,760
et presidents all it has to be is a

1201
00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:45,839
valid national security issue which it

1202
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:46,319
is and

1203
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:48,000
has been presented to that for three

1204
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:49,599
solid years so they're

1205
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:52,240
politically completely safe nobody is

1206
00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:53,119
going to attack

1207
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,319
any member of that committee or

1208
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,480
committee chair because they

1209
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:58,640
brought all these government witnes

1210
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,480
military witnesses in to talk about

1211
00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:02,720
events like the nimitz event on the

1212
00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:05,920
basis of its potential national security

1213
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:08,079
and that doesn't even get to the nuclear

1214
00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:11,040
weapons weapons tampering witnesses

1215
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:12,480
is there anybody going to say well you

1216
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:14,319
know yeah they shut our missiles down

1217
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:16,160
but why should we consider that national

1218
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:17,359
security

1219
00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:20,480
please absolutely political safe and

1220
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:22,240
nonpartisan so they can they can

1221
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:23,760
conduct hearings and not have to put on

1222
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:25,599
the usual political road show

1223
00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:26,800
or they make fools of themselves not

1224
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:28,560
necessary they don't want to make fools

1225
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:29,680
of themselves

1226
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:31,760
at this point absolutely but what they

1227
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:33,440
have no other choice

1228
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:36,160
they're in a circus and in the circus

1229
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:36,800
you put on

1230
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:39,040
clown shows and so unless you leave the

1231
00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:39,920
circus

1232
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:43,200
you put on a clown show well this

1233
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,200
subject doesn't require that it is a

1234
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:47,200
perfectly nonpartisan subject based on

1235
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:48,720
national security which transcends

1236
00:44:50,950 --> 00:44:49,440
politics

1237
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:50,960
so they can actually put on a proper

1238
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:52,880
hearing act well look good

1239
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:54,560
and the audience will be rather large

1240
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:56,160
this is a win-win-win for them and they

1241
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:56,800
know it

1242
00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:00,079
so do you put that off no you don't okay

1243
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,069
the uh

1244
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:11,030
the the senate returns on the 12th

1245
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:15,430
but there were four committees briefed

1246
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:17,200
and the intel committees have many

1247
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:19,760
subcommittees

1248
00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:21,920
so you've got a lot of people here now

1249
00:45:26,069 --> 00:45:23,599
in congress that have this issue

1250
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:26,079
so let me put out a suggestion which

1251
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:27,760
i'll say is a

1252
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:30,240
a speculation that i have like 100

1253
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:32,000
certainty about all right

1254
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:35,040
and that is this i assure you

1255
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:38,400
the department of defense knew

1256
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:42,160
expected and absolutely wanted

1257
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:46,800
this part this classified report to leak

1258
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:49,920
absolutely wanted it to leak because you

1259
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:50,480
see

1260
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:53,280
it's not them leaking it now it's the

1261
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:55,520
congress people that are leaking it

1262
00:46:02,390 --> 00:45:58,800
dod is in the clear right no problem

1263
00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:02,400
and so uh and that's in their favor

1264
00:46:10,630 --> 00:46:09,589
these hearings will be the biggest ever

1265
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:10,640
these will be the most important

1266
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:12,640
hearings in all of history

1267
00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:14,480
there will be many they will go on for

1268
00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:17,119
days there will be scores of witnesses

1269
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:19,520
the audience will be large uh pick a

1270
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:20,800
number

1271
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:24,480
i know two billion people watched

1272
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:27,680
i just recently learned this two billion

1273
00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:28,400
people

1274
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:31,760
watched god what was it

1275
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:41,030
i can't what do you think of uh

1276
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:43,430
dr greer's role in all this because he

1277
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:44,720
almost

1278
00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:47,040
he did so much years ago and now it's

1279
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:48,880
kind of at the point where he's

1280
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:52,000
isolating himself a bit yeah that's

1281
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:53,200
that's his decisions

1282
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:55,760
his actions i that they're i'm only

1283
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:57,440
interested in what is happening in terms

1284
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:58,319
of the government

1285
00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:00,880
the people in the field like me are not

1286
00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:01,520
going to be

1287
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:04,880
actual parts of what's going down

1288
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:06,960
now we're trying to influence it yeah

1289
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:08,560
we're talking about it i'm doing my

1290
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:10,480
thing that i think has a bearing on it

1291
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:12,000
but in terms of the strategies and the

1292
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,599
actual people that's not us

1293
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:15,280
we're not going to be in this game until

1294
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:17,359
after disclosure i mean we can say

1295
00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:18,480
whatever we want

1296
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:19,839
but they're not going to be calling us

1297
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:22,480
in for our advice or counsel

1298
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:24,079
or asking us to help put anything

1299
00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:25,599
together no no no no

1300
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:28,559
that's going to be mainstream people our

1301
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:30,640
day will come after disclosure

1302
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:34,079
right so nro probably has a lot of

1303
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:35,440
information i would imagine they've been

1304
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:38,079
putting satellites up in space forever

1305
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:40,559
it's agencies that got something it will

1306
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:41,359
take

1307
00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:44,880
months if not years assuming

1308
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:47,599
it's doable to get the information out

1309
00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:49,200
of the government that we should have

1310
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:52,240
months and years they have masses of it

1311
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:52,880
okay

1312
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:00,390
this is a big deal these uh

1313
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:03,440
these conferences these hearings

1314
00:48:07,109 --> 00:48:06,000
and so there's going to be a competition

1315
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,119
amongst

1316
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:09,839
committee chairs to make sure they get

1317
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:11,200
their hearing

1318
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:12,880
they get their time in front of hundreds

1319
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:14,400
of millions of people right

1320
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:18,240
uh you don't this is this is pure gold

1321
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:21,280
if you are a a politician in congress

1322
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:21,599
who

1323
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:23,680
plans on running some more or maybe have

1324
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:26,000
presidential ambitions

1325
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:29,520
so not surprisingly one committee chair

1326
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:32,800
has already called for hearings

1327
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:35,119
i think it wasn't uh something that was

1328
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:37,040
supposed to be his call

1329
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:39,839
he probably was not supposed to do that

1330
00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:40,240
but

1331
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:42,880
he said well you know you know i'm not a

1332
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:44,240
potted plant here

1333
00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:47,680
right now this was this was subtle

1334
00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:50,559
andrea carson is a democrat from indiana

1335
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:51,760
very powerful

1336
00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:53,359
but he's not a committee chair he's a

1337
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:54,800
subcommittee chair but he's the

1338
00:49:01,589 --> 00:48:56,079
subcommittee

1339
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:01,599
counterintelligence counter surveillance

1340
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:02,720
counter

1341
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:06,079
proliferation committee okay

1342
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:09,920
heavy heavy on nbc news on the fourth

1343
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:11,760
and a couple of days prior to that

1344
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:13,839
in an interview he said yeah we we need

1345
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:16,160
to have hearings on this

1346
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:19,440
so marco rubio just got uh

1347
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,040
mildly sandbagged okay now

1348
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:25,520
you see where this is going don't you i

1349
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:26,960
mean

1350
00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:28,400
if you're if you're the chairman of one

1351
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:30,079
of these four committees and and and

1352
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:31,520
you've got these other people saying

1353
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:32,800
yeah we need to have hearing and you're

1354
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:34,319
just sitting there

1355
00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:37,280
going you know i'm i'm a powerful person

1356
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:39,040
i'm a chairman of the armed services

1357
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:39,760
committee

1358
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,960
this is totally in our purview i'm just

1359
00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:44,400
supposed to sit here and let these

1360
00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:45,040
people

1361
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:47,440
call for the hearings i have a committee

1362
00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:49,040
i don't need the approval of another

1363
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:50,079
committee chair

1364
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:53,920
period in their committee

1365
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:55,760
marco rubio can't stop this armed

1366
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:57,119
services committee from calling here

1367
00:49:59,829 --> 00:49:58,400
they didn't call the damn hearing anyone

1368
00:50:01,349 --> 00:49:59,839
they want to they can call it for two

1369
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:01,359
days from now if they get the witnesses

1370
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:02,160
into town

1371
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:05,520
and so you're going to see a competition

1372
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:07,599
between a number of people within this

1373
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:09,280
committee structure

1374
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:12,319
uh trying to get a piece of the action

1375
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:14,720
at the same time you're going to have

1376
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:16,240
people on the staff

1377
00:50:20,069 --> 00:50:19,200
start leaking aspects of the classified

1378
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:20,079
report

1379
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:21,599
which of course the media is going to

1380
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:24,800
see on so does anybody really think

1381
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:29,760
this is like 1987 77 55 54 69 does

1382
00:50:33,190 --> 00:50:31,599
anybody think that it's even remotely

1383
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:33,200
like that

1384
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:36,160
we are in another place altogether we

1385
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:38,079
are in the last days of the truth

1386
00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:39,280
embargo

1387
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:43,760
okay so now now i got some hard stuff

1388
00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:44,559
for your people

1389
00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:47,040
which is great by the way sorry i like

1390
00:50:49,589 --> 00:50:48,720
your background you got an eclectic kind

1391
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:49,599
of art

1392
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:52,559
deco whatever it's good it's fun i go

1393
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,480
with the standard massive library

1394
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:56,480
yeah you know i can't read that many

1395
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:58,160
books so no

1396
00:51:01,510 --> 00:51:00,559
they're just there for show so uh

1397
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:01,520
understand

1398
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:04,640
okay so the first leak may have taken

1399
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:06,640
place

1400
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:09,440
and we're going to analyze it all right

1401
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:11,040
now

1402
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:14,000
this leak came through not an

1403
00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:15,599
inappropriate person

1404
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:18,559
uh and didn't go directly to the papers

1405
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:19,440
it went to

1406
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:22,480
richard dolan mm-hmm now what your

1407
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:23,920
audience needs to understand about

1408
00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:27,280
this is that the way this transpired

1409
00:51:34,549 --> 00:51:30,559
and this is not surprising somebody

1410
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:36,549
provided this information almost

1411
00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:38,720
certainly verbally

1412
00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:41,920
to an outside person outside

1413
00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:45,200
okay and then that person happened to be

1414
00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:46,240
a trusted

1415
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:50,160
a source for dolan he wrote it up pass

1416
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:51,520
it to dolan

1417
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:54,880
dolan trusts that person and so

1418
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:57,040
he was confident he felt confident that

1419
00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:58,960
this information

1420
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:01,680
legitimately came from somebody in the

1421
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:02,720
committee

1422
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:04,800
doesn't mean it's true it could be a

1423
00:52:08,470 --> 00:52:05,760
fake out

1424
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:08,480
right they have done this in the past it

1425
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:10,480
would be really stupid to do it here but

1426
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:11,119
it could be

1427
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:12,880
so he's he made it clear he hasn't

1428
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:15,119
confirmed it i haven't confirmed it

1429
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:18,720
but for those in the know we have a lot

1430
00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:21,040
to draw on in assessing something like

1431
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:21,839
this

1432
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:24,720
and so i'm now going to assess it for

1433
00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:26,559
you i'm going into full

1434
00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:29,680
uh assessment mode okay

1435
00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:31,040
all right so let's see i got to drop

1436
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:33,680
this down hang on a second now

1437
00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:34,960
you're not going to lose me but i'm

1438
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:37,040
switching to a page okay

1439
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:39,359
oh sure you can still see me right okay

1440
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:40,800
yes

1441
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:43,520
so and again this is through richard

1442
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:44,480
dolan

1443
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:46,079
i don't think it's got it's gotten

1444
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:47,760
around a little bit the social media

1445
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:49,359
hasn't been picked up on the press yet

1446
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:50,079
because

1447
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:51,760
the press like the washington post they

1448
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:53,119
can't just print this

1449
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,440
they have got to confirm it and that may

1450
00:52:58,950 --> 00:52:57,359
not be easy so it's going to hit social

1451
00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:58,960
media first which is okay

1452
00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:00,880
as long as it's properly represented i

1453
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:02,720
believe i've done that

1454
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:05,200
so this is what was written down by his

1455
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:07,200
source and then passed on to him in

1456
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:08,160
writing form

1457
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:09,760
which means it's a little rough around

1458
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:11,920
the edges has a couple of mistakes in it

1459
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:14,480
this is hardly surprising this is not a

1460
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:16,880
copy of a document provided

1461
00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:19,760
to the committees so once one's got that

1462
00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:20,960
in mind just

1463
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:24,640
drop your hyper debunker antenna for a

1464
00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:25,119
minute

1465
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:27,760
and just go with the flow here here's

1466
00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:29,200
what it says

1467
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:32,000
i'm going to read it slowly because i

1468
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:33,920
think

1469
00:53:39,430 --> 00:53:35,680
anybody that's really interested in this

1470
00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:39,440
issue needs to get this slowly

1471
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:41,760
so it soaks in we need to we need to go

1472
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:43,760
into grock mode fully grockman i just

1473
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:52,790
quoting from this the classified

1474
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:55,599
portion of the uap report given to a

1475
00:53:58,230 --> 00:53:56,000
select

1476
00:54:00,710 --> 00:53:58,240
number of congress men it should say

1477
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:00,720
congress persons

1478
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:05,040
and senators relates to the following

1479
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:08,640
number one energy pulse

1480
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:11,920
propulsion systems projects

1481
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:15,520
number two ion propulsion systems

1482
00:54:22,829 --> 00:54:18,800
number three anti-gravity

1483
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:22,839
propulsion systems number four

1484
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:25,920
anti-matter propulsion systems

1485
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:29,119
number five ramjet hydrogen propulsion

1486
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,240
systems number six compressed nuclear

1487
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:34,319
propulsion systems

1488
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:37,760
seven advanced use of exotic

1489
00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:40,799
elements for energy research in

1490
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:41,760
parentheses

1491
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:44,960
et related items

1492
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:48,079
number eight the kaesong energy

1493
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:49,200
propulsion

1494
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:52,640
system research project

1495
00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:54,799
curser or whatever the hell that means

1496
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:55,760
okay

1497
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:59,280
now right away if that

1498
00:55:02,549 --> 00:55:01,440
is in fact what was in that classified

1499
00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:02,559
report

1500
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:05,680
that is a really big deal but it gets

1501
00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:07,359
better

1502
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:10,079
now comes a paragraph of further

1503
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:15,270
all these highly classified projects are

1504
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:17,200
under the control of the defense

1505
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:20,720
advance research project agency

1506
00:55:26,549 --> 00:55:24,559
darpa nothing shocking there

1507
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:26,559
and being managed by a classified group

1508
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:28,319
called advance

1509
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,040
group six easy to confirm

1510
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:35,359
be very unwise to put in a specific name

1511
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:36,720
like that

1512
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:38,960
darpa we know advanced group six not

1513
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:39,920
necessarily

1514
00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:42,559
so that to me is a credibility marker

1515
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:44,720
all funding for these projects is black

1516
00:55:47,829 --> 00:55:45,760
confidential

1517
00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:47,839
and being managed by a classified group

1518
00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:49,280
called i said that already

1519
00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:51,680
all funding is is black confidential

1520
00:55:54,549 --> 00:55:52,640
funds

1521
00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:54,559
appropriated under intelligence

1522
00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:56,400
operations cost

1523
00:56:00,829 --> 00:55:59,440
some funds come from private sectors no

1524
00:56:05,109 --> 00:56:00,839
red flag

1525
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:05,119
there then it gets more interesting

1526
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:08,720
prototypes of flying craft utilizing the

1527
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:10,960
above technology are being flown at area

1528
00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:11,680
51

1529
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:14,799
and tonopah air force base test range

1530
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:17,520
well and then it gets even more

1531
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:19,680
interesting that gives credit to

1532
00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:22,240
some of the uaps observed in and around

1533
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:23,359
nevada can be

1534
00:56:29,109 --> 00:56:26,640
contributed and this is a typo

1535
00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:29,119
it should be attributed to me that's a

1536
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:31,440
credibility marker remember

1537
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:33,920
delivered orally to a third party who

1538
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:36,160
writes it down and then passes it on

1539
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:40,160
to richard uh attribute contribute

1540
00:56:44,549 --> 00:56:42,240
attributed to crafts using the above

1541
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:44,559
propulsion systems

1542
00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:51,910
closing sentences the killer

1543
00:56:58,470 --> 00:56:56,079
sentences however

1544
00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:58,480
none of the experimental crafts have

1545
00:57:03,910 --> 00:57:00,880
flown outside the nellis test

1546
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:03,920
and training range

1547
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:06,480
which is exactly the way it should be

1548
00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:08,240
people that keep talking about

1549
00:57:12,549 --> 00:57:09,839
well you know they were flying this

1550
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:12,559
stuff over arizona new york new jersey

1551
00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:14,880
around the aircraft carriers you know

1552
00:57:18,309 --> 00:57:16,799
they would do that of course no they

1553
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,319
wouldn't

1554
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:20,240
absolutely not they would test them over

1555
00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:21,359
the netherlands test range and they

1556
00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:22,480
wouldn't let them outside

1557
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:25,119
and they have designated faa gives them

1558
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:26,640
designated airspace for that

1559
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:28,079
oh god yeah they got all the you know

1560
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:30,400
and when people were photographing the

1561
00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:31,599
damn things they bought a

1562
00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:32,960
bunch of land pushed them back another

1563
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:35,280
bunch of miles and then the final

1564
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:41,750
none of these experimental crafts

1565
00:57:48,309 --> 00:57:45,520
can be contributed should say attributed

1566
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:48,319
to the sightings photograph by the us

1567
00:57:58,549 --> 00:57:55,349
so now let's

1568
00:58:01,829 --> 00:57:58,559
analyze this in in

1569
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:01,839
at the large level what has just

1570
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:03,839
happened here

1571
00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:07,200
if it's true it's huge

1572
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:11,119
one first a number of member of congress

1573
00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:13,040
involved in important committees were

1574
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:15,520
given briefings on a whole range of our

1575
00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:17,280
most advanced propulsion

1576
00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:20,240
technology research much of which they

1577
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:23,920
probably didn't have a clue even existed

1578
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:26,720
secondly having told them this is what

1579
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:27,760
we're doing

1580
00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:29,760
which by the way includes anti-gravity

1581
00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:32,079
propulsion we have but we have felt and

1582
00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:33,599
seen evidence that they have

1583
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:37,040
anti-gravity craft okay and so

1584
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:39,599
if if that is true they just referred to

1585
00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:41,440
it right there

1586
00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:42,799
i don't think they're referring to some

1587
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:44,720
garage experiments they're working on

1588
00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:47,839
you know off to the side

1589
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:50,079
at a public storage place no i think

1590
00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:51,119
they're saying that we're really

1591
00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:52,000
studying

1592
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:53,359
matter and they don't rule out that they

1593
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:55,359
actually are able to use it

1594
00:58:59,270 --> 00:58:58,480
so that's big all right so they've just

1595
00:59:02,789 --> 00:58:59,280
told them about

1596
00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:02,799
this is what we got and it's pretty good

1597
00:59:07,270 --> 00:59:05,920
and yet this not only is never tested

1598
00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:07,280
off the nellis range

1599
00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:10,160
but it is not represented in the navy uh

1600
00:59:13,829 --> 00:59:11,440
accounts which

1601
00:59:14,549 --> 00:59:13,839
includes obviously a bunch of the lesser

1602
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:14,559
uh

1603
00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:16,319
significant the less significant

1604
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:18,319
accounts but also the nimitz event

1605
00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:20,880
the tic tacs they're saying we got all

1606
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:22,640
this stuff but those tic tacs

1607
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:25,119
are not that you think that includes

1608
00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:26,960
jeremy's videos

1609
00:59:34,150 --> 00:59:31,280
yes yeah so uh

1610
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:34,160
when you put it in that context if this

1611
00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:34,640
leak

1612
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:37,680
is valid then in that in and

1613
00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:41,520
of itself when eventually confirmed by

1614
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:42,400
the media

1615
00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:44,720
is going to generate some seriously

1616
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:46,240
intense news articles

1617
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:48,799
if not a bunch of new york times and

1618
00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:50,240
washington post reporters

1619
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:52,160
rummaging through every trash can they

1620
00:59:58,950 --> 00:59:55,040
can find at the defense department

1621
01:00:02,710 --> 00:59:58,960
dump yard right so and this this is

1622
01:00:05,829 --> 01:00:02,720
just a quarter third of a page

1623
01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:05,839
from a 75 page report

1624
01:00:12,069 --> 01:00:09,040
wow so are you starting to see

1625
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:12,079
the strategy here imagine if they had

1626
01:00:17,589 --> 01:00:15,119
put that in the public report

1627
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:17,599
oh my god but again because it would be

1628
01:00:21,190 --> 01:00:18,880
coming from the pentagon

1629
01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:21,200
and all kinds of people would be looking

1630
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:22,960
to court martial people and generally

1631
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:23,920
cause trouble

1632
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:25,440
but it's coming from a leak from the

1633
01:00:28,069 --> 01:00:26,720
congress they're not damn thing they can

1634
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:28,079
do about it

1635
01:00:32,870 --> 01:00:32,000
so that's where we are in that regard

1636
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:32,880
now

1637
01:00:36,870 --> 01:00:34,640
i'm going to tell you one more thing we

1638
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:36,880
got a hard copy on

1639
01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:38,880
that again should be enough to help

1640
01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:39,920
convince

1641
01:00:44,150 --> 01:00:42,160
people that just can't let go of the

1642
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:44,160
idea that the disclosure

1643
01:00:48,710 --> 01:00:46,480
process will will happen and and the

1644
01:00:51,670 --> 01:00:48,720
truth embargo has to end they just

1645
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:51,680
after 68 74 years they can't give up i

1646
01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:53,440
understand

1647
01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:55,040
it's like a person that's been in prison

1648
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:57,599
for 50 years and he's applied for parole

1649
01:01:00,950 --> 01:00:59,520
eight times and been denied and you're

1650
01:01:02,309 --> 01:01:00,960
trying to convince the guy

1651
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:02,319
that the next time he's going to get

1652
01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:04,000
paroled i don't blame him for hitting

1653
01:01:07,109 --> 01:01:04,880
you over the head

1654
01:01:08,230 --> 01:01:07,119
with a with one of those big serving

1655
01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:08,240
labels

1656
01:01:12,030 --> 01:01:10,559
yeah yeah i know i get it i get it i get

1657
01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:12,040
it it's called being

1658
01:01:20,549 --> 01:01:15,599
institutionalized so

1659
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:20,559
let us now move over to the pentagon

1660
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:23,200
where they have been giving regular

1661
01:01:27,670 --> 01:01:25,200
press conferences

1662
01:01:28,950 --> 01:01:27,680
far more than the white house is giving

1663
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:28,960
though the white house is giving more

1664
01:01:32,390 --> 01:01:30,720
than we got in the last administration

1665
01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:32,400
but for a number of reasons biden is

1666
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:34,000
slow walking the press conferences they

1667
01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:35,920
will pick up in time but right now

1668
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:38,319
he's trying to minimize it why because

1669
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:39,040
he's got

1670
01:01:43,829 --> 01:01:42,160
huge legislative problems here that have

1671
01:01:45,030 --> 01:01:43,839
to be solved and every time you give a

1672
01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:45,040
press conference you're going to say

1673
01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:46,400
something it's going to piss up somebody

1674
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:47,760
you're trying to negotiate with

1675
01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:50,240
and so for now he's taking the low-key

1676
01:01:53,670 --> 01:01:51,280
let saki take

1677
01:01:56,069 --> 01:01:53,680
take the action but that's not the case

1678
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:56,079
over at the department of defense

1679
01:01:59,990 --> 01:01:58,240
where their press secretary john kirby

1680
01:02:03,270 --> 01:02:00,000
is every bit as powerful as uh

1681
01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:03,280
janzaki okay and they're giving a lot of

1682
01:02:05,829 --> 01:02:04,400
press conferences

1683
01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:05,839
and let me tell you something about

1684
01:02:12,150 --> 01:02:08,960
pentagon correspondence

1685
01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:12,160
and i i don't really mean any disrespect

1686
01:02:19,029 --> 01:02:15,920
but in the collective and this is not

1687
01:02:20,230 --> 01:02:19,039
not hard to to accept i think in the

1688
01:02:24,230 --> 01:02:20,240
collective

1689
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:24,240
pentagon correspondents are much

1690
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:27,520
smarter and

1691
01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:30,960
how would you say on top

1692
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:33,200
of their subject than the white house

1693
01:02:38,230 --> 01:02:35,520
correspondents

1694
01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:38,240
by a significant margin you don't get to

1695
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:39,119
be a

1696
01:02:42,789 --> 01:02:41,280
pentagon press conference a press

1697
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,799
correspondent unless you can talk

1698
01:02:47,190 --> 01:02:44,400
nuclear proliferation

1699
01:02:49,190 --> 01:02:47,200
uh arms control agreements the latest

1700
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:49,200
developments and nuclear tech

1701
01:02:53,510 --> 01:02:50,720
how many wars are going on at one

1702
01:02:54,549 --> 01:02:53,520
particular time blah blah blah blah blah

1703
01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:54,559
you've got to be able to know that if

1704
01:02:57,270 --> 01:02:55,839
you don't know that they're not let you

1705
01:03:01,029 --> 01:02:57,280
in the damn run

1706
01:03:03,029 --> 01:03:01,039
and so let us go to a press conference

1707
01:03:06,630 --> 01:03:03,039
it was held

1708
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:06,640
on june the first

1709
01:03:11,270 --> 01:03:08,720
now this press conference happened to be

1710
01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:11,280
held just two days before the leak to

1711
01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:12,720
the pentagon that won the deliberate

1712
01:03:16,309 --> 01:03:13,599
leak that the

1713
01:03:17,349 --> 01:03:16,319
department of defense undoubtedly uh did

1714
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:17,359
on its own

1715
01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:20,400
okay you following here i'm here okay

1716
01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:22,480
and so the press conference gets

1717
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:23,760
underway

1718
01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:27,200
and by the way generally pentagon press

1719
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:28,960
conferences are a lot more subdued than

1720
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:30,400
white house press conferences i think

1721
01:03:35,109 --> 01:03:32,160
most people can get that

1722
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:35,119
making a lot of jokes or having fun and

1723
01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:35,920
now

1724
01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:37,359
it doesn't happen much not that it

1725
01:03:42,069 --> 01:03:39,359
doesn't happen a little bit but

1726
01:03:42,470 --> 01:03:42,079
because these people do know each other

1727
01:03:44,309 --> 01:03:42,480
uh

1728
01:03:45,750 --> 01:03:44,319
but nevertheless this is not the white

1729
01:03:49,270 --> 01:03:45,760
house press conference

1730
01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:49,280
so we're about halfway through this

1731
01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:52,880
puppy and and they do not they do not

1732
01:03:56,230 --> 01:03:54,640
give the names of the correspondent they

1733
01:03:57,990 --> 01:03:56,240
do not give the names of the reporters i

1734
01:03:59,270 --> 01:03:58,000
think this is protocol it's

1735
01:04:01,670 --> 01:03:59,280
if you want to know the names you got to

1736
01:04:05,510 --> 01:04:01,680
go watch the damn thing

1737
01:04:06,789 --> 01:04:05,520
they just do q meaning questioner

1738
01:04:10,829 --> 01:04:06,799
[Music]

1739
01:04:13,990 --> 01:04:10,839
q a quick question on the upcoming uap

1740
01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:14,000
reports uh there's been some reporting

1741
01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:15,520
that this could be coming as soon as

1742
01:04:20,950 --> 01:04:17,200
this week

1743
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:20,960
meaning the week of of june one

1744
01:04:24,870 --> 01:04:24,000
obviously wrong or maybe even tomorrow i

1745
01:04:26,870 --> 01:04:24,880
remember that

1746
01:04:28,309 --> 01:04:26,880
can we say anything about what timing we

1747
01:04:29,750 --> 01:04:28,319
should actually expect in other words

1748
01:04:31,430 --> 01:04:29,760
when this damn report and he's referring

1749
01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:31,440
to the uap public report not the

1750
01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:33,119
classifier

1751
01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:35,440
and kirby says though what report matt

1752
01:04:38,150 --> 01:04:36,640
now again i think

1753
01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:38,160
the guy was talking fast and he

1754
01:04:41,990 --> 01:04:40,240
mentioned uap and as you know uap

1755
01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:42,000
is the new term that we use and we use

1756
01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:43,440
it for a damn good reason it's my

1757
01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:44,400
channel

1758
01:04:48,069 --> 01:04:46,480
and if he said ufo i think he'd have

1759
01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:48,079
picked up so he said that report what

1760
01:04:51,029 --> 01:04:48,960
report mark

1761
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:51,039
and and and so matt and he's identified

1762
01:04:55,990 --> 01:04:52,480
man so matt comes back with

1763
01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:56,000
the uap report ufo report

1764
01:05:01,589 --> 01:04:59,520
in which case the press secretary of the

1765
01:05:04,309 --> 01:05:01,599
pentagon says

1766
01:05:05,589 --> 01:05:04,319
uh that is really for the dni to speak

1767
01:05:07,670 --> 01:05:05,599
to matt

1768
01:05:09,349 --> 01:05:07,680
as you know this is a report a

1769
01:05:12,789 --> 01:05:09,359
congressionally mandated report

1770
01:05:15,270 --> 01:05:12,799
the dni is in the lead it will be dni

1771
01:05:17,109 --> 01:05:15,280
who will be making that report obviously

1772
01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:17,119
the dod has a role

1773
01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:19,760
in helping flesh out the information

1774
01:05:23,589 --> 01:05:20,480
that will be

1775
01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:23,599
in that report but as for specific

1776
01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:24,480
timing i

1777
01:05:30,470 --> 01:05:27,760
refer you to the dni

1778
01:05:32,390 --> 01:05:30,480
okay well for sure as hell one thing

1779
01:05:33,750 --> 01:05:32,400
he's trying to emphasize is the report

1780
01:05:36,789 --> 01:05:33,760
is coming through the dni

1781
01:05:38,549 --> 01:05:36,799
not the dod right okay remember i told

1782
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:38,559
you about the fact that the dod

1783
01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:41,280
dod would rather all jump into a flaming

1784
01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:42,000
cauldron

1785
01:05:45,990 --> 01:05:44,319
of lava than have to be the one to pass

1786
01:05:49,190 --> 01:05:46,000
on juicy

1787
01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:49,200
bean spilling stuff okay and but but

1788
01:05:54,549 --> 01:05:50,799
this is a

1789
01:05:58,789 --> 01:05:54,559
standard fundamental response

1790
01:06:02,470 --> 01:05:58,799
25 years ago you don't get that response

1791
01:06:04,950 --> 01:06:02,480
and so that question goes down okay

1792
01:06:07,109 --> 01:06:04,960
so the press conference continues a

1793
01:06:10,150 --> 01:06:07,119
little bit longer

1794
01:06:13,190 --> 01:06:10,160
and about as we're approaching the end

1795
01:06:20,630 --> 01:06:17,589
a second questioner jumps in okay

1796
01:06:22,230 --> 01:06:20,640
q uh and then one class

1797
01:06:25,109 --> 01:06:22,240
question on the pentagon's contribution

1798
01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:25,119
to the uo ufo report

1799
01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:26,880
i've been speaking with a series of

1800
01:06:31,510 --> 01:06:29,440
experts abroad

1801
01:06:33,029 --> 01:06:31,520
who have expressed some concern about

1802
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:33,039
similar investigations in other

1803
01:06:35,910 --> 01:06:34,000
countries having

1804
01:06:39,029 --> 01:06:35,920
too much of a military focus and not

1805
01:06:40,390 --> 01:06:39,039
enough input from civilian scientists

1806
01:06:42,710 --> 01:06:40,400
i wonder if that's a concern that the

1807
01:06:45,910 --> 01:06:42,720
pentagon has shared and whether they

1808
01:06:46,150 --> 01:06:45,920
came up at all during this most recent

1809
01:06:56,710 --> 01:06:46,160
in

1810
01:06:58,390 --> 01:06:56,720
you know

1811
01:07:00,309 --> 01:06:58,400
we're actually kind of checking into

1812
01:07:01,990 --> 01:07:00,319
this we're treating it seriously and all

1813
01:07:05,109 --> 01:07:02,000
that

1814
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:05,119
and okay so this is a tricky one how

1815
01:07:10,789 --> 01:07:07,200
does he handle it

1816
01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:10,799
problem kirby what we're participating

1817
01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:11,520
in

1818
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:17,599
mandated on and mandated by congress

1819
01:07:21,270 --> 01:07:18,480
we're providing

1820
01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:21,280
context and information that we have on

1821
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:22,400
these phenomena

1822
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:25,200
and our focus is on again on supporting

1823
01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:27,280
the dni's effort dni's efforts to

1824
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:28,640
produce this report

1825
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:31,920
that that's what our tool is and

1826
01:07:36,710 --> 01:07:34,880
and again that's our that's our lane

1827
01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:36,720
that's our place to be

1828
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:40,480
in our place to be in is to provide

1829
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:43,119
the kind of context that we have and the

1830
01:07:46,150 --> 01:07:44,880
information that we have to help the dna

1831
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:46,160
produce this report

1832
01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:49,520
for context okay

1833
01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:51,839
and then the next question was on the in

1834
01:07:56,870 --> 01:07:53,760
israeli defense minister

1835
01:07:59,109 --> 01:07:56,880
so again he's not dismissing it

1836
01:08:00,789 --> 01:07:59,119
he's handling in a way that that clearly

1837
01:08:03,510 --> 01:08:00,799
plays into the agenda that's

1838
01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:03,520
underway they're staying in their lane

1839
01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:04,960
they're not getting in the business

1840
01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:07,599
of spilling beans they're supporting the

1841
01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:09,280
process that ultimately goes to the

1842
01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:10,160
house

1843
01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:14,160
true and this is by the chief

1844
01:08:17,349 --> 01:08:16,880
uh spokesperson for the pentagon okay so

1845
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:17,359
that's

1846
01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:20,640
on the first of

1847
01:08:27,910 --> 01:08:24,719
june now on the third of june

1848
01:08:30,070 --> 01:08:27,920
um we know that there was a leak

1849
01:08:31,990 --> 01:08:30,080
to the new york times which outed the

1850
01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:32,000
two key points in the public report we

1851
01:08:37,030 --> 01:08:34,400
talked about that

1852
01:08:38,789 --> 01:08:37,040
the next day all right you're following

1853
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:38,799
me here the next day

1854
01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:43,440
is june the 4th and there is another

1855
01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:45,279
they're holding them practically for a

1856
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:46,640
week right

1857
01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:49,679
there's another press conference uh

1858
01:08:54,789 --> 01:08:52,960
and kirby is there and uh

1859
01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:54,799
the new york times has already published

1860
01:09:00,149 --> 01:08:56,000
that

1861
01:09:03,189 --> 01:09:00,159
and obviously they must have

1862
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:03,199
confirmed lead uh indicating what the

1863
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:04,480
public report was going to say at least

1864
01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:06,080
to the two thing kings that probably was

1865
01:09:11,110 --> 01:09:06,719
gonna

1866
01:09:14,309 --> 01:09:11,120
say uh and so not surprisingly

1867
01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:16,309
there's more questions now i'm just

1868
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:17,759
gonna check something here hand one

1869
01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:19,120
moment i just want to check something

1870
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:20,799
right here yeah

1871
01:09:24,870 --> 01:09:23,279
second i appreciate you coming here and

1872
01:09:28,870 --> 01:09:24,880
laying this all out for me this is

1873
01:09:32,829 --> 01:09:28,880
my job pretty good so is my job

1874
01:09:32,839 --> 01:09:39,110
okay first another ufo question

1875
01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:41,749
john i'll uh question her john i'll

1876
01:09:44,149 --> 01:09:43,279
start you off with a ufo question how

1877
01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:44,159
about that

1878
01:09:50,630 --> 01:09:48,159
go for it says kirby okay has secretary

1879
01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:50,640
austin been briefed on this report

1880
01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:53,199
that's required by congress and

1881
01:09:57,030 --> 01:09:55,360
also just more proudly this broadly does

1882
01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:57,040
secretary austin see this

1883
01:10:00,070 --> 01:09:58,560
what apparently is an increasing number

1884
01:10:02,390 --> 01:10:00,080
of reported incidents as a

1885
01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:02,400
safety report for the military in terms

1886
01:10:07,510 --> 01:10:04,400
of pilot training and so forth

1887
01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:07,520
as well as a national security threat

1888
01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:09,520
yeah this is the pentagon national

1889
01:10:12,630 --> 01:10:10,960
security is key

1890
01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:12,640
it's not only the pentagon's job but it

1891
01:10:14,950 --> 01:10:14,320
is of course the platform in which these

1892
01:10:18,790 --> 01:10:14,960
hearings

1893
01:10:20,870 --> 01:10:18,800
have to be developed kirby's response he

1894
01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:20,880
has received a briefing so he confirms

1895
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:22,480
austin's been briefed on the ongoing

1896
01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:24,320
work

1897
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:26,000
that the task force has thus far

1898
01:10:31,110 --> 01:10:29,120
conducted this is the fourth of june

1899
01:10:32,630 --> 01:10:31,120
the report as you know is being crafted

1900
01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:32,640
and will be delivered by the director of

1901
01:10:37,189 --> 01:10:34,960
national intelligence

1902
01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:37,199
meaning the public report uh which we

1903
01:10:40,709 --> 01:10:38,800
got in the 29th

1904
01:10:42,310 --> 01:10:40,719
21 days later but he has received a

1905
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:42,320
briefing on the work

1906
01:10:47,750 --> 01:10:45,840
thus far and as we've said before we

1907
01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:47,760
take all incursions into our operating

1908
01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:49,679
space seriously so i mean

1909
01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:51,280
like everybody else here at the defense

1910
01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:52,880
department certainly we are taking the

1911
01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:54,400
entire matter seriously

1912
01:11:00,390 --> 01:10:58,400
regarding the potential safety concerns

1913
01:11:01,430 --> 01:11:00,400
what are they taking seriously safety

1914
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:01,440
concerns no

1915
01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:03,280
that we know they take safety concerns

1916
01:11:06,550 --> 01:11:05,280
seriously they're taking the safety

1917
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:06,560
concerns raised

1918
01:11:11,110 --> 01:11:09,520
by uaps which means they're taking uap

1919
01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:11,120
seriously

1920
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:14,000
that's kind of important and then the

1921
01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:14,640
questionnaire

1922
01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:16,320
follows up in other words regardless of

1923
01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:18,400
what the explanation may be or

1924
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:22,080
if there is none of what they there

1925
01:11:25,110 --> 01:11:23,440
there are incidents in which the pilots

1926
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:25,120
are seeing things that are close enough

1927
01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:26,480
that could be a safety well it's a

1928
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:27,760
safety problem

1929
01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:30,880
kirby it could possibly involve safety

1930
01:11:34,709 --> 01:11:31,520
and or

1931
01:11:36,310 --> 01:11:34,719
national security concerns absolutely i

1932
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:36,320
mean i don't know how

1933
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:39,520
much more he can can put it

1934
01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:43,280
the next question was on north korea

1935
01:11:46,709 --> 01:11:44,960
okay and now i'm going to finish up with

1936
01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:46,719
the psd resistance

1937
01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:48,480
okay you ready for the pace to resist

1938
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:50,320
all i was born rudy

1939
01:11:54,229 --> 01:11:52,800
okay you're gonna love this your

1940
01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:54,239
audience is going to love this

1941
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:57,120
yeah this is 2021 this is in 1969 it

1942
01:12:02,630 --> 01:11:58,560
says in 1990.

1943
01:12:07,270 --> 01:12:02,640
this isn't 2 000. this is 2021.

1944
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:09,030
uh question little a little uh

1945
01:12:12,550 --> 01:12:11,199
camaraderie here hey john happy birthday

1946
01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:12,560
apparently june the fourth was john

1947
01:12:16,229 --> 01:12:14,560
kirby's birthday

1948
01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:16,239
and i love the way that the questioner

1949
01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:18,480
went about this

1950
01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:21,360
and notice he's he's he's doing what is

1951
01:12:25,270 --> 01:12:22,080
called the

1952
01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:25,280
protective soft intro but it's a solid

1953
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:26,880
protective soft incredible

1954
01:12:30,709 --> 01:12:30,000
it is not demeaning there's no way that

1955
01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:30,719
i can like

1956
01:12:35,189 --> 01:12:34,400
sugar coat this i was talking to a

1957
01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:35,199
gentleman

1958
01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:39,520
about the uap report and he contends the

1959
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:40,480
bodies has

1960
01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:44,640
the pentagon has alien bodies and crabs

1961
01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:46,640
so i just wanted to run this past you

1962
01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:47,760
does dod

1963
01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:51,040
have these things and if so

1964
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:55,199
where okay now let us all think back on

1965
01:13:00,310 --> 01:12:56,880
all of the instances

1966
01:13:01,430 --> 01:13:00,320
where either a high a high a white house

1967
01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:01,440
reporter

1968
01:13:07,990 --> 01:13:07,280
asked the press secretaries whether the

1969
01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:08,000
dod

1970
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:09,679
had bodies and crafts can you remember

1971
01:13:15,189 --> 01:13:12,239
an instance where that happened

1972
01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:15,199
no no that's because it never happened

1973
01:13:18,070 --> 01:13:15,920
okay

1974
01:13:20,470 --> 01:13:18,080
so naturally this would normally send

1975
01:13:22,550 --> 01:13:20,480
the press secretary into a state of

1976
01:13:24,630 --> 01:13:22,560
cognizant dissonance possibly leading to

1977
01:13:27,910 --> 01:13:24,640
a brain freeze

1978
01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:27,920
here is his response to the bodies and

1979
01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:29,280
graphs

1980
01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:32,080
the ua this may sound familiar the uap

1981
01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:34,560
task force is really designed to take a

1982
01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:34,960
look

1983
01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:37,679
at these unexplained aerial phenomena to

1984
01:13:41,990 --> 01:13:39,199
try to help us get better

1985
01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:42,000
understanding of them again i'm not

1986
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:43,920
going to get ahead of the report

1987
01:13:47,590 --> 01:13:47,040
that the dni will submit that we are

1988
01:13:50,790 --> 01:13:47,600
helping

1989
01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:50,800
obviously and providing input to and

1990
01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:52,800
i'll just leave it at that

1991
01:13:57,189 --> 01:13:55,120
real estate yeah jeff the answer to that

1992
01:13:58,070 --> 01:13:57,199
question yeah the next question was on

1993
01:14:04,470 --> 01:13:58,080
nuclear

1994
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:04,480
let's analyze did john kirby deny that

1995
01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:06,480
the dod had bodies and grabs

1996
01:14:12,550 --> 01:14:10,159
no no did john stick with the fact that

1997
01:14:13,750 --> 01:14:12,560
they do not want to get they are not

1998
01:14:16,229 --> 01:14:13,760
going to be getting to

1999
01:14:18,149 --> 01:14:16,239
into the information revealing process

2000
01:14:18,790 --> 01:14:18,159
they are supporting the process that

2001
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:18,800
does put

2002
01:14:22,709 --> 01:14:20,800
produce a report it doesn't come from

2003
01:14:25,270 --> 01:14:22,719
the dod it comes from the o and i

2004
01:14:25,830 --> 01:14:25,280
and it goes to congress that's what he's

2005
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:25,840
doing

2006
01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:30,640
and it absolutely confirms

2007
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:33,840
that the dod has in fact concluded as i

2008
01:14:38,070 --> 01:14:35,440
have stated many times

2009
01:14:39,270 --> 01:14:38,080
that the truth embargo is about to end

2010
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:39,280
and that playing ball

2011
01:14:43,510 --> 01:14:41,120
being supportive being part of the

2012
01:14:44,470 --> 01:14:43,520
process is the absolute strategy they

2013
01:14:47,270 --> 01:14:44,480
must follow

2014
01:14:48,310 --> 01:14:47,280
in order to uh uh get the most favorable

2015
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:48,320
response

2016
01:14:53,270 --> 01:14:51,360
from the american people as

2017
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:53,280
this finally ends up with disclosure

2018
01:14:57,910 --> 01:14:54,719
from the president

2019
01:15:01,590 --> 01:14:57,920
yeah and so that's what took place

2020
01:15:04,390 --> 01:15:01,600
june 1 and june 4.

2021
01:15:05,510 --> 01:15:04,400
and so i don't know how much more people

2022
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:05,520
need

2023
01:15:08,630 --> 01:15:07,520
i knew that most people do not know what

2024
01:15:10,149 --> 01:15:08,640
i've just told you

2025
01:15:11,990 --> 01:15:10,159
well i don't think they're able to

2026
01:15:16,229 --> 01:15:12,000
analyze it as deep

2027
01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:16,239
as you are yeah very true very true

2028
01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:19,600
so uh there you go um

2029
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:25,669
uh the time frame has been pushed back

2030
01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:27,199
some because of the pandemic and other

2031
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:28,400
political development so i'm not

2032
01:15:33,669 --> 01:15:30,080
apologizing for saying earlier

2033
01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:33,679
july was certainly a possibility uh

2034
01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:35,920
or even sooner but i i think the most i

2035
01:15:41,189 --> 01:15:38,159
said late may early july

2036
01:15:44,790 --> 01:15:43,350
the house of senate committee members

2037
01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:44,800
about 80 90

2038
01:15:51,990 --> 01:15:48,400
have had the report for now

2039
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:52,000
uh uh

2040
01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:56,640
uh 20 days yeah that's a long time

2041
01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:59,280
by by coincidence the senate went into

2042
01:16:04,709 --> 01:16:00,719
recess the day after the

2043
01:16:06,950 --> 01:16:04,719
public report was delivered uh

2044
01:16:08,550 --> 01:16:06,960
which is fine so that and they don't

2045
01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:08,560
come back until the 12th of july so they

2046
01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:09,840
get another 12 days

2047
01:16:13,189 --> 01:16:12,159
so the senate members have had will have

2048
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:13,199
had as of the 12

2049
01:16:20,390 --> 01:16:17,199
32 days to

2050
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:20,400
read a 73 page report and consider all

2051
01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:21,040
of the

2052
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:22,480
the briefing they got which apparently

2053
01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:25,040
included some

2054
01:16:28,229 --> 01:16:27,280
significant amount of video footage can

2055
01:16:31,510 --> 01:16:28,239
you

2056
01:16:32,950 --> 01:16:31,520
ascertain a confirmation on that was it

2057
01:16:35,990 --> 01:16:32,960
it was reported

2058
01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:36,000
yeah i i just haven't heard anyone

2059
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:38,080
have they talked about it 45 minutes of

2060
01:16:43,270 --> 01:16:40,960
sci-fi movies is what i've heard

2061
01:16:45,110 --> 01:16:43,280
like no they said that they got they got

2062
01:16:46,870 --> 01:16:45,120
they got some movies and it would seem

2063
01:16:48,310 --> 01:16:46,880
like watching a sci-fi movie well if

2064
01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:48,320
you're watching advanced propulsion

2065
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:49,040
systems

2066
01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:51,280
yeah yeah and that that was not a

2067
01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:53,280
demeaning remark that was like

2068
01:16:57,750 --> 01:16:56,080
yeah this was impressive video yeah okay

2069
01:16:59,590 --> 01:16:57,760
okay so

2070
01:17:01,030 --> 01:16:59,600
that is more than enough time for them

2071
01:17:03,189 --> 01:17:01,040
to decide should we have hearings and

2072
01:17:06,630 --> 01:17:03,199
not have hearings

2073
01:17:07,910 --> 01:17:06,640
now the house people remained in session

2074
01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:07,920
for a while

2075
01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:11,120
and they come back after the

2076
01:17:16,149 --> 01:17:13,840
senate committing later in july the

2077
01:17:17,350 --> 01:17:16,159
senate uh people it comes back language

2078
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:17,360
but but let's face it the initial

2079
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:18,320
hearings were not going to be in the

2080
01:17:21,669 --> 01:17:19,920
house they were going to be

2081
01:17:23,189 --> 01:17:21,679
in the senate senate intel was going to

2082
01:17:24,149 --> 01:17:23,199
get the lead even though i'm sure andrew

2083
01:17:25,669 --> 01:17:24,159
carson would love to have his

2084
01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:25,679
subcommittee go first it's not going to

2085
01:17:30,790 --> 01:17:26,960
work that way

2086
01:17:32,070 --> 01:17:30,800
uh so uh uh what what could and should

2087
01:17:36,630 --> 01:17:32,080
happen next is that

2088
01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:36,640
shortly after returning to session

2089
01:17:44,149 --> 01:17:40,800
on july 12 rubio and warner

2090
01:17:46,470 --> 01:17:44,159
or one of them one of the other both

2091
01:17:47,430 --> 01:17:46,480
should first indicate they intend to

2092
01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:47,440
hold hearings and then

2093
01:17:51,350 --> 01:17:50,159
probably pin a date on it if they're

2094
01:17:52,630 --> 01:17:51,360
smart

2095
01:17:54,149 --> 01:17:52,640
now they could say they're going to have

2096
01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:54,159
holden hearings but they don't know when

2097
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:55,280
it could be in the winter it could be

2098
01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:56,000
next year

2099
01:18:00,630 --> 01:17:58,640
that would be a grave political mistake

2100
01:18:01,830 --> 01:18:00,640
yeah i cannot imagine they're stupid

2101
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:01,840
enough to do that

2102
01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:03,760
by the time they get back then there

2103
01:18:06,709 --> 01:18:05,440
will be another 100 articles in the

2104
01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:06,719
mainstream press

2105
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:08,400
more public awareness more public

2106
01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:09,760
interest and if they try to stall these

2107
01:18:13,350 --> 01:18:11,360
hearings out for months the public is

2108
01:18:16,709 --> 01:18:13,360
going to how would you say

2109
01:18:17,189 --> 01:18:16,719
be displeased and that translates into

2110
01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:17,199
lost

2111
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:19,920
votes and so i do not think they're

2112
01:18:22,709 --> 01:18:21,280
going to do that they're going to call

2113
01:18:24,830 --> 01:18:22,719
themselves

2114
01:18:27,590 --> 01:18:24,840
now the hearings then could start in

2115
01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:27,600
july and already be underway

2116
01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:31,280
in the senate when the house returns

2117
01:18:34,870 --> 01:18:32,560
the senate will stay in session all the

2118
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:34,880
way to august 7. and so then the house

2119
01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:36,880
returns and they can

2120
01:18:40,550 --> 01:18:38,320
get their act together and make their

2121
01:18:42,310 --> 01:18:40,560
plans and they can announce okay

2122
01:18:43,590 --> 01:18:42,320
you've seen these senate hearings you've

2123
01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:43,600
seen that testimony we're going to hold

2124
01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:44,480
some hearings

2125
01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:47,040
too which means the hearings could last

2126
01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:48,239
for weeks

2127
01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:50,000
a couple of weeks of july week or so

2128
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:52,320
into august the number of military

2129
01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:54,000
witnesses could easily rise

2130
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:57,280
into the range of 60 to 80 though

2131
01:19:00,390 --> 01:18:59,040
30 or 40 would be more than enough

2132
01:19:03,750 --> 01:19:00,400
that's powerful

2133
01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:03,760
and so you know what happens when

2134
01:19:07,189 --> 01:19:05,280
hundreds of millions of people around

2135
01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:07,199
the world watch 40 50

2136
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:10,960
60 military people it's over

2137
01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:17,030
but what had hap what happens is is this

2138
01:19:21,189 --> 01:19:18,400
and this is where this has all been

2139
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:24,870
and that is that these hearings

2140
01:19:28,149 --> 01:19:26,480
which will be watched by hundreds of

2141
01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:28,159
millions of people

2142
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:30,239
plus everybody on the hill you think

2143
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:31,679
everybody in the hill is going to be

2144
01:19:35,830 --> 01:19:34,480
you know i i yeah yeah i i'll i'll i'll

2145
01:19:36,550 --> 01:19:35,840
i'll watch them when they stream on

2146
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:36,560
netflix

2147
01:19:40,310 --> 01:19:38,880
i don't think so they're going

2148
01:19:42,149 --> 01:19:40,320
everybody's watching these hearings

2149
01:19:43,910 --> 01:19:42,159
everybody's listening this testimony i

2150
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:43,920
know what a lot of testimony is the

2151
01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:46,080
biggest event in tv history

2152
01:19:50,550 --> 01:19:48,239
it will be and and this testimony which

2153
01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:50,560
has been out there for a while

2154
01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:53,280
is potent but it's never been in front

2155
01:19:57,910 --> 01:19:55,120
of congress under oath it's been

2156
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:57,920
under a fictional oath at my citizen

2157
01:20:03,510 --> 01:19:59,760
hearing on disclosure which was

2158
01:20:05,590 --> 01:20:03,520
done to help bring about this but

2159
01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:05,600
with 200 million people watching under

2160
01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:07,840
oath in front of members of congress

2161
01:20:14,629 --> 01:20:11,280
it will be absolutely

2162
01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:14,639
devastating to the truth embargo and

2163
01:20:18,470 --> 01:20:16,880
what will then go down what's supposed

2164
01:20:22,550 --> 01:20:18,480
to go down

2165
01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:22,560
what i hope will go down is this

2166
01:20:28,229 --> 01:20:25,760
they have handed the president the means

2167
01:20:31,510 --> 01:20:28,239
to extricate the country out from this

2168
01:20:31,990 --> 01:20:31,520
truth embargo with minimal to zero

2169
01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:32,000
damage

2170
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:33,760
to the president and his party and

2171
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:35,600
really not much damage to anybody

2172
01:20:39,990 --> 01:20:38,320
though there will be eventually issues

2173
01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:40,000
that will come up but that will be after

2174
01:20:46,470 --> 01:20:41,280
disclosure

2175
01:20:49,030 --> 01:20:46,480
in other words the president

2176
01:20:51,030 --> 01:20:49,040
and it can go out for the first time and

2177
01:20:54,070 --> 01:20:51,040
say this

2178
01:20:56,709 --> 01:20:54,080
my fellow americans

2179
01:20:58,629 --> 01:20:56,719
like you for these past two three weeks

2180
01:20:59,590 --> 01:20:58,639
i have been watching the extraordinary

2181
01:21:02,149 --> 01:20:59,600
testimony

2182
01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:02,159
of members of our military services to

2183
01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:04,320
extraordinary events

2184
01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:07,600
i've also seen evidence gun camera

2185
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:09,600
footage clips and other things whatever

2186
01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:13,600
has been included in this thing and

2187
01:21:18,709 --> 01:21:16,880
i have consulted with the top people at

2188
01:21:20,390 --> 01:21:18,719
the pentagon my people there

2189
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:20,400
about this testimony and i've consulted

2190
01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:23,280
with the congressional leaders about it

2191
01:21:29,830 --> 01:21:26,800
and we have come to the consensus

2192
01:21:30,790 --> 01:21:29,840
that this testimony clearly confirms

2193
01:21:33,350 --> 01:21:30,800
what many of you

2194
01:21:35,830 --> 01:21:33,360
probably have already arrived at and

2195
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:35,840
that is

2196
01:21:39,750 --> 01:21:38,719
much of this phenomena what we're seeing

2197
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:39,760
not everything

2198
01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:41,520
but a good deal of the phenomena that

2199
01:21:44,830 --> 01:21:42,880
had been recorded and the events

2200
01:21:47,750 --> 01:21:44,840
testified to refer to

2201
01:21:51,149 --> 01:21:47,760
non-human extraterrestrial

2202
01:21:54,550 --> 01:21:51,159
origin events using

2203
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:54,560
extraterrestrial built vehicles piloted

2204
01:21:58,470 --> 01:21:55,440
or controlled

2205
01:22:01,669 --> 01:21:58,480
by non-humans in other words

2206
01:22:04,790 --> 01:22:01,679
that's disclosure and

2207
01:22:07,910 --> 01:22:04,800
remember what he said like you

2208
01:22:09,830 --> 01:22:07,920
i have watched this testimony

2209
01:22:11,830 --> 01:22:09,840
so what is going down here is the

2210
01:22:13,750 --> 01:22:11,840
president is basically able to say

2211
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:13,760
whatever i thought about it prior to

2212
01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:14,639
this

2213
01:22:21,590 --> 01:22:19,040
i am now convinced in a transparent way

2214
01:22:22,629 --> 01:22:21,600
along with you who is going to criticize

2215
01:22:24,070 --> 01:22:22,639
the president on this

2216
01:22:26,070 --> 01:22:24,080
who is going to come to him and say how

2217
01:22:27,270 --> 01:22:26,080
dare you or why didn't you tell us

2218
01:22:29,270 --> 01:22:27,280
sooner

2219
01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:29,280
most of the public relations problems of

2220
01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:31,040
the white house have been eliminated now

2221
01:22:35,110 --> 01:22:33,199
as we get into the granular parts

2222
01:22:36,550 --> 01:22:35,120
later on weeks and months later in the

2223
01:22:38,550 --> 01:22:36,560
post-disclosure world where there'll be

2224
01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:38,560
even more hearings

2225
01:22:43,470 --> 01:22:40,239
things may come out which may go you

2226
01:22:45,590 --> 01:22:43,480
know i think maybe there was some uh

2227
01:22:46,950 --> 01:22:45,600
misrepresentations remember and and

2228
01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:46,960
that's inevitable

2229
01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:48,800
because and this is this is the one of

2230
01:22:52,709 --> 01:22:52,080
the greatest ironies in human history is

2231
01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:52,719
that and i

2232
01:22:56,950 --> 01:22:55,679
and i am not i'm not criticizing here

2233
01:23:00,709 --> 01:22:56,960
the only way

2234
01:23:05,030 --> 01:23:00,719
to get in the 74-year

2235
01:23:08,629 --> 01:23:05,040
lie behind the truth embargo was to lie

2236
01:23:10,310 --> 01:23:08,639
their way out of the lie

2237
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:10,320
they couldn't tell the truth they

2238
01:23:15,510 --> 01:23:11,920
couldn't tell the whole truth

2239
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:15,520
they had to fib and manipulate the truth

2240
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:19,120
but to a higher purpose to get out from

2241
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:20,159
under the big lie

2242
01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:22,480
once the big lie was was it was closed

2243
01:23:26,229 --> 01:23:24,639
out and confirmation of the et presence

2244
01:23:29,270 --> 01:23:26,239
was there

2245
01:23:31,510 --> 01:23:29,280
addressing all of the

2246
01:23:32,629 --> 01:23:31,520
other misrepresentations lies and or

2247
01:23:36,629 --> 01:23:32,639
problems

2248
01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:36,639
in the post-disclosure world will be far

2249
01:23:42,310 --> 01:23:39,679
easier uh than in the pre-disclosure

2250
01:23:44,629 --> 01:23:42,320
world where frankly it was impossible

2251
01:23:46,390 --> 01:23:44,639
and so there will be awkward moments in

2252
01:23:50,310 --> 01:23:46,400
the post-disclosure world but i

2253
01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:50,320
i think it will be it can be worked with

2254
01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:52,639
people just get there we'll deal with it

2255
01:23:57,430 --> 01:23:53,360
yeah yeah

2256
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:57,440
it's like let me tell you

2257
01:24:01,590 --> 01:23:59,760
if you've i'm trying to think of a

2258
01:24:05,270 --> 01:24:01,600
metaphor analogy but

2259
01:24:07,350 --> 01:24:05,280
i think that if

2260
01:24:08,629 --> 01:24:07,360
if the kids are pissed off about the

2261
01:24:10,390 --> 01:24:08,639
fact that they had to go on this

2262
01:24:12,470 --> 01:24:10,400
particular vacation or

2263
01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:12,480
it's taking so long and it's boring in

2264
01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:14,880
the car and everything else

2265
01:24:19,510 --> 01:24:16,719
it's a lot easier to deal with that

2266
01:24:21,189 --> 01:24:19,520
after you arrive at your destination

2267
01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:21,199
than fighting it out in the car the

2268
01:24:28,629 --> 01:24:23,760
whole 850 miles

2269
01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:28,639
so uh again disclosure

2270
01:24:33,270 --> 01:24:31,360
is absolutely necessary to move forward

2271
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:33,280
and a lot of misrepresentations cannot

2272
01:24:36,629 --> 01:24:35,040
be avoided in getting there

2273
01:24:38,950 --> 01:24:36,639
uh there are plenty people that

2274
01:24:41,590 --> 01:24:38,960
understand these misrepresentations

2275
01:24:43,910 --> 01:24:41,600
uh none of some of them are trying to

2276
01:24:45,110 --> 01:24:43,920
make a big deal out of it i am not

2277
01:24:48,629 --> 01:24:45,120
however

2278
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:48,639
obviously i'm stating it aren't i

2279
01:24:53,669 --> 01:24:50,880
and you may say well steve if they have

2280
01:24:55,669 --> 01:24:53,679
to lie to get out of the lie

2281
01:24:58,070 --> 01:24:55,679
and you're fine with that why are you

2282
01:25:02,390 --> 01:24:58,080
telling us about that

2283
01:25:05,669 --> 01:25:02,400
well here's the reason i'm not

2284
01:25:07,750 --> 01:25:05,679
a former intel working for the dod

2285
01:25:09,430 --> 01:25:07,760
i'm not a former cia agent i'm not a

2286
01:25:12,070 --> 01:25:09,440
former member of congress

2287
01:25:13,270 --> 01:25:12,080
i'm a political activist completely

2288
01:25:16,310 --> 01:25:13,280
independent

2289
01:25:19,590 --> 01:25:16,320
i can say any damn thing i want

2290
01:25:20,950 --> 01:25:19,600
and so by by and this is my 97th

2291
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:20,960
interview by the way

2292
01:25:28,149 --> 01:25:25,520
this year by by explaining to people

2293
01:25:29,350 --> 01:25:28,159
that yes they're lying to get out of the

2294
01:25:33,350 --> 01:25:29,360
lie

2295
01:25:35,189 --> 01:25:33,360
i'm not undermining their strategy

2296
01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:35,199
and the reason is is that there are

2297
01:25:39,110 --> 01:25:37,120
quite a few people out there

2298
01:25:40,790 --> 01:25:39,120
that know damn well they're lying to get

2299
01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:40,800
out of the way and it's making them very

2300
01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:43,360
angry and i'm giving them a reason to

2301
01:25:47,590 --> 01:25:44,400
chill

2302
01:25:49,510 --> 01:25:47,600
yeah i'm trying to mitigate

2303
01:25:51,830 --> 01:25:49,520
the downside of this strategy because

2304
01:25:54,070 --> 01:25:51,840
it's not a perfect strategy obviously

2305
01:25:56,229 --> 01:25:54,080
and i'm trying to mitigate would you

2306
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:56,239
know it's a complex topic and to have an

2307
01:26:00,390 --> 01:25:58,320
easy simple black and white solution is

2308
01:26:02,229 --> 01:26:00,400
just uh not realistic

2309
01:26:04,149 --> 01:26:02,239
yeah there was a time when it could have

2310
01:26:07,590 --> 01:26:04,159
been done in a clean fashion but

2311
01:26:10,629 --> 01:26:07,600
right that that ship sailed so uh but

2312
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:10,639
it's proceeding it's taking too long but

2313
01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:11,040
we

2314
01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:12,960
i understand why it could have been over

2315
01:26:15,270 --> 01:26:14,719
this could have been over by june july

2316
01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:15,280
of uh

2317
01:26:19,750 --> 01:26:17,760
2017 and was supposed to be i assure you

2318
01:26:21,030 --> 01:26:19,760
they had no plans to be able to do this

2319
01:26:22,470 --> 01:26:21,040
for four years

2320
01:26:24,950 --> 01:26:22,480
just trust me how different everything

2321
01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:24,960
would be right now oh god we'd have it

2322
01:26:27,910 --> 01:26:26,320
we'd be in a whole different place but

2323
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:27,920
uh but that's the same thing about

2324
01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:29,920
roswell if it come out in 47 we even a

2325
01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:30,880
whole different place

2326
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:32,400
that you you can't think about that too

2327
01:26:37,189 --> 01:26:35,520
much or you'll go really nuts

2328
01:26:39,270 --> 01:26:37,199
but we aren't we are everything is

2329
01:26:40,149 --> 01:26:39,280
moving forward i think appropriately so

2330
01:26:42,629 --> 01:26:40,159
far

2331
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:42,639
uh i'm i'm i'm checking and watching

2332
01:26:45,910 --> 01:26:44,719
what happens over the ig with elizondo

2333
01:26:48,870 --> 01:26:45,920
and sheehan but

2334
01:26:50,070 --> 01:26:48,880
that's right that made that that i don't

2335
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:50,080
think it's really a problem but it

2336
01:26:54,310 --> 01:26:51,120
actually may be

2337
01:26:55,430 --> 01:26:54,320
a positive because right it's putting

2338
01:26:57,350 --> 01:26:55,440
some pressure on them

2339
01:26:59,750 --> 01:26:57,360
you know just to let them know that you

2340
01:27:02,070 --> 01:26:59,760
know look it can get a lot worse

2341
01:27:04,149 --> 01:27:02,080
than this so you got a good strategy

2342
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:04,159
stick with it let's get the job done

2343
01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:05,520
your life will be better our life will

2344
01:27:10,709 --> 01:27:07,360
be better yeah

2345
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:10,719
i mean he's he's done so much

2346
01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:13,440
um to get us here to begin with uh you

2347
01:27:17,910 --> 01:27:15,760
know going back to what you said about

2348
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:17,920
when have we ever been at this point in

2349
01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:19,920
history and although i haven't lived

2350
01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:20,639
then

2351
01:27:27,350 --> 01:27:23,760
i've done so much

2352
01:27:30,470 --> 01:27:27,360
reading of blurry words on old documents

2353
01:27:33,750 --> 01:27:30,480
to know that uh no we have not

2354
01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:33,760
been here before and it is different

2355
01:27:39,430 --> 01:27:36,960
and you can feel it in the air

2356
01:27:40,390 --> 01:27:39,440
you know it's something that's tangible

2357
01:27:43,830 --> 01:27:40,400
yeah i agree

2358
01:27:46,310 --> 01:27:43,840
and uh it's hard to

2359
01:27:48,310 --> 01:27:46,320
sometimes accept something when it's

2360
01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:48,320
this far down the line but

2361
01:27:54,310 --> 01:27:51,920
uh we are we are very close i'm

2362
01:27:56,310 --> 01:27:54,320
pretty much generally pleased with this

2363
01:27:57,910 --> 01:27:56,320
yeah and i've lost my video where the

2364
01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:57,920
hell is i'll find it there it is stream

2365
01:28:01,189 --> 01:27:58,320
yard

2366
01:28:02,870 --> 01:28:01,199
there we go uh so look you got it you

2367
01:28:03,590 --> 01:28:02,880
got any i know i know i have blathered

2368
01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:03,600
on for a while

2369
01:28:06,709 --> 01:28:05,440
if you've got something listen if you've

2370
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:06,719
got some tight questions i'll try to

2371
01:28:10,870 --> 01:28:07,920
give you a short answer

2372
01:28:11,669 --> 01:28:10,880
sure i got uh tight questions uh you ate

2373
01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:11,679
the uap

2374
01:28:15,510 --> 01:28:13,440
pack have you heard of that do you know

2375
01:28:18,310 --> 01:28:15,520
anything about it yeah i know it exists

2376
01:28:19,669 --> 01:28:18,320
uh it's the second pack ever but i think

2377
01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:19,679
it's got more money and more people

2378
01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:21,040
involved in my little pack which i've

2379
01:28:24,470 --> 01:28:22,320
got in suspension

2380
01:28:25,990 --> 01:28:24,480
so good on it i will be promoting it as

2381
01:28:28,709 --> 01:28:26,000
soon as i do my next update

2382
01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:28,719
okay fantastic um this is a personal

2383
01:28:32,550 --> 01:28:29,440
question

2384
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:32,560
um i've noticed that uh grudge blue book

2385
01:28:35,590 --> 01:28:33,280
all those

2386
01:28:38,550 --> 01:28:35,600
projects were really ran out of atec

2387
01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:38,560
wouldn't it be smarter to foia a tick

2388
01:28:42,149 --> 01:28:40,800
in osi it seemed like they had all those

2389
01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:42,159
cases right

2390
01:28:47,510 --> 01:28:45,360
look whatever can be uh eff floyd john

2391
01:28:49,430 --> 01:28:47,520
greenwald is foiated

2392
01:28:50,550 --> 01:28:49,440
yeah he he has documents showing how

2393
01:28:51,350 --> 01:28:50,560
much toilet paper they use in the

2394
01:28:57,510 --> 01:28:51,360
pentagon

2395
01:29:00,629 --> 01:28:57,520
look uh uh look the way it works is this

2396
01:29:01,910 --> 01:29:00,639
i i understand the foia law if they

2397
01:29:03,750 --> 01:29:01,920
don't want you to have it and they don't

2398
01:29:05,110 --> 01:29:03,760
want you to have anything that has any

2399
01:29:06,149 --> 01:29:05,120
pressure on the truth embargo you're not

2400
01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:06,159
going to get it i don't care how many

2401
01:29:08,149 --> 01:29:07,920
for you we've seen an evidence of that

2402
01:29:10,629 --> 01:29:08,159
and

2403
01:29:11,510 --> 01:29:10,639
he's just not yeah not gonna happen so

2404
01:29:14,709 --> 01:29:11,520
so but it's a

2405
01:29:16,310 --> 01:29:14,719
logical target now post disclosure it's

2406
01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:16,320
very possible

2407
01:29:19,430 --> 01:29:18,960
that a lot of the restrictions that

2408
01:29:23,110 --> 01:29:19,440
they're

2409
01:29:24,229 --> 01:29:23,120
in self-imposing against the foia law

2410
01:29:25,750 --> 01:29:24,239
that you never know when it comes to

2411
01:29:27,510 --> 01:29:25,760
national security they may loosen them

2412
01:29:28,550 --> 01:29:27,520
up and it may be possible for us to play

2413
01:29:29,750 --> 01:29:28,560
a lot of stuff

2414
01:29:31,510 --> 01:29:29,760
and that's cool that's one way for the

2415
01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:31,520
government to cooperate without and let

2416
01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:32,000
and

2417
01:29:40,390 --> 01:29:38,639
uh that's just how i found all the dc

2418
01:29:43,590 --> 01:29:40,400
documents on that whole event

2419
01:29:46,070 --> 01:29:43,600
i found like 60 70 of them i have

2420
01:29:47,430 --> 01:29:46,080
no case when you get something yeah it's

2421
01:29:50,390 --> 01:29:47,440
crazy

2422
01:29:52,390 --> 01:29:50,400
um but that's it about that uh could you

2423
01:29:53,830 --> 01:29:52,400
tell me about your

2424
01:29:56,470 --> 01:29:53,840
you have an appearance in a netflix

2425
01:29:59,910 --> 01:29:56,480
documentary coming up

2426
01:30:02,229 --> 01:29:59,920
top secret ufo uh projects declassified

2427
01:30:02,950 --> 01:30:02,239
yeah that's a that's that you that's my

2428
01:30:05,990 --> 01:30:02,960
life well

2429
01:30:08,390 --> 01:30:06,000
first of all i don't even remember doing

2430
01:30:10,229 --> 01:30:08,400
the interview no it wasn't an interview

2431
01:30:12,870 --> 01:30:10,239
it was a trailer

2432
01:30:14,390 --> 01:30:12,880
yeah but i'm in the flick too right so i

2433
01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:14,400
don't remember doing the interview in

2434
01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:16,480
the trailer or anything else

2435
01:30:20,390 --> 01:30:18,320
it looks like it's at least three to

2436
01:30:24,629 --> 01:30:20,400
four years ago might even be five

2437
01:30:27,510 --> 01:30:24,639
oh my god so all i can say is

2438
01:30:29,510 --> 01:30:27,520
look i i i expected this to happen have

2439
01:30:30,870 --> 01:30:29,520
i signed off on it probably not or maybe

2440
01:30:32,870 --> 01:30:30,880
i did who the hell knows

2441
01:30:33,990 --> 01:30:32,880
so i'm in it i know i know that i know

2442
01:30:37,110 --> 01:30:34,000
that a lot of entities

2443
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:37,120
out there there's a lot of let me i know

2444
01:30:42,390 --> 01:30:38,320
for a fact

2445
01:30:43,750 --> 01:30:42,400
that production entities across the

2446
01:30:46,870 --> 01:30:43,760
spectrum

2447
01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:46,880
streaming major film production

2448
01:30:51,110 --> 01:30:47,520
companies

2449
01:30:52,550 --> 01:30:51,120
everybody is is is calling together

2450
01:30:53,990 --> 01:30:52,560
meetings and going

2451
01:30:55,669 --> 01:30:54,000
what have we got what the hell can we

2452
01:30:58,870 --> 01:30:55,679
get out the door right now

2453
01:31:01,590 --> 01:30:58,880
okay and uh because they they they

2454
01:31:02,950 --> 01:31:01,600
they hollywood people are extremely

2455
01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:02,960
smart

2456
01:31:07,830 --> 01:31:06,320
and i know certain actors

2457
01:31:09,910 --> 01:31:07,840
maybe come across as not too bright but

2458
01:31:10,870 --> 01:31:09,920
let me tell you the industry is filled

2459
01:31:12,870 --> 01:31:10,880
with geniuses

2460
01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:12,880
you don't make the kinds of things they

2461
01:31:17,669 --> 01:31:15,280
do unless you're incredibly smart

2462
01:31:18,870 --> 01:31:17,679
uh believe me i mean some people paint a

2463
01:31:19,270 --> 01:31:18,880
painting and they call themselves an

2464
01:31:21,910 --> 01:31:19,280
argument

2465
01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:21,920
artist okay well that was hard direct

2466
01:31:25,030 --> 01:31:23,040
the movie

2467
01:31:27,830 --> 01:31:25,040
direct a three million dollar movie with

2468
01:31:29,669 --> 01:31:27,840
a cast of 29 and 150 minutes

2469
01:31:30,950 --> 01:31:29,679
i've seen something right over 20 years

2470
01:31:34,390 --> 01:31:30,960
yeah so

2471
01:31:35,830 --> 01:31:34,400
nice um i assure you that plenty of

2472
01:31:37,030 --> 01:31:35,840
people have known about the e.t presence

2473
01:31:38,149 --> 01:31:37,040
forever

2474
01:31:40,149 --> 01:31:38,159
and that's one of the reasons they make

2475
01:31:41,750 --> 01:31:40,159
hundreds of vt films well you know

2476
01:31:43,270 --> 01:31:41,760
it's usually an invasion the point is it

2477
01:31:44,470 --> 01:31:43,280
sells gazillions of tickets they make a

2478
01:31:47,030 --> 01:31:44,480
fortune

2479
01:31:48,310 --> 01:31:47,040
very few of them though a number of

2480
01:31:50,629 --> 01:31:48,320
actors particularly

2481
01:31:52,070 --> 01:31:50,639
have announced ufo sightings they've

2482
01:31:52,709 --> 01:31:52,080
done that uap sightings they've done

2483
01:31:54,629 --> 01:31:52,719
that

2484
01:31:55,830 --> 01:31:54,639
but in terms of really getting at it you

2485
01:31:58,070 --> 01:31:55,840
know uh

2486
01:31:59,510 --> 01:31:58,080
no they don't they don't see his chart

2487
01:32:00,870 --> 01:31:59,520
uh challenging the truth embargo

2488
01:32:03,910 --> 01:32:00,880
necessarily in their interest

2489
01:32:06,790 --> 01:32:03,920
that is changing now yeah right

2490
01:32:07,510 --> 01:32:06,800
and so i can tell you that some big

2491
01:32:10,629 --> 01:32:07,520
projects

2492
01:32:13,270 --> 01:32:10,639
are coming and one was just announced

2493
01:32:14,709 --> 01:32:13,280
okay you may have heard it may not but

2494
01:32:17,030 --> 01:32:14,719
if anybody in your audience hasn't heard

2495
01:32:19,510 --> 01:32:17,040
this you're hearing it from me today

2496
01:32:21,030 --> 01:32:19,520
i am i am the man of the hour the the

2497
01:32:22,229 --> 01:32:21,040
the washington reporter and the

2498
01:32:24,950 --> 01:32:22,239
hollywood reporter

2499
01:32:26,629 --> 01:32:24,960
take it away what's the scoop probably

2500
01:32:29,669 --> 01:32:26,639
the top producer

2501
01:32:30,310 --> 01:32:29,679
in all of hollywood who has what is

2502
01:32:34,390 --> 01:32:30,320
considered

2503
01:32:36,390 --> 01:32:34,400
the highest tech uh production

2504
01:32:38,950 --> 01:32:36,400
operation in all of hollywood by the

2505
01:32:42,070 --> 01:32:38,960
name of bad robot

2506
01:32:43,510 --> 01:32:42,080
j.j abrams announced a variety in a

2507
01:32:44,629 --> 01:32:43,520
hollywood reporter it's been now

2508
01:32:47,030 --> 01:32:44,639
published

2509
01:32:48,070 --> 01:32:47,040
that they are going to drop a four hour

2510
01:32:51,430 --> 01:32:48,080
four-part

2511
01:32:56,229 --> 01:32:51,440
series on the uap phenomena right

2512
01:32:58,550 --> 01:32:56,239
uh and he had the balls to call it ufo

2513
01:32:59,430 --> 01:32:58,560
but because of how high the production

2514
01:33:01,830 --> 01:32:59,440
values are

2515
01:33:02,790 --> 01:33:01,840
it's going to work in other words if

2516
01:33:05,189 --> 01:33:02,800
anything can

2517
01:33:06,390 --> 01:33:05,199
help to bring back and legitimize ufo

2518
01:33:09,910 --> 01:33:06,400
again is a worthwhile

2519
01:33:12,390 --> 01:33:09,920
acronym to use after it's been

2520
01:33:15,510 --> 01:33:12,400
poisoned to death by the truth embargo

2521
01:33:18,709 --> 01:33:15,520
for 60 years it may be j.j abrams

2522
01:33:22,709 --> 01:33:18,719
this is going to be huge

2523
01:33:25,270 --> 01:33:22,719
okay and and it's going to be dropped

2524
01:33:26,070 --> 01:33:25,280
i heard august 2 or august 9th all at

2525
01:33:30,390 --> 01:33:26,080
once

2526
01:33:32,550 --> 01:33:30,400
boom okay so let's do the math

2527
01:33:33,590 --> 01:33:32,560
the senate intel committee comes back

2528
01:33:36,790 --> 01:33:33,600
into session

2529
01:33:37,110 --> 01:33:36,800
on the 12th of july and stays in session

2530
01:33:41,750 --> 01:33:37,120
to

2531
01:33:45,270 --> 01:33:41,760
august the 7th before they leave

2532
01:33:48,149 --> 01:33:45,280
the network series will be dropped and

2533
01:33:49,510 --> 01:33:48,159
jj abrams bad robot series ufo will be

2534
01:33:51,669 --> 01:33:49,520
dropped

2535
01:33:53,110 --> 01:33:51,679
and if the hearies are underway won't

2536
01:33:55,990 --> 01:33:53,120
that be favorable

2537
01:33:56,310 --> 01:33:56,000
for those series and if the hearings are

2538
01:33:58,709 --> 01:33:56,320
just

2539
01:34:00,550 --> 01:33:58,719
in development won't that series be

2540
01:34:02,550 --> 01:34:00,560
really powerful in getting the congress

2541
01:34:05,270 --> 01:34:02,560
to get on his bicycle and start pedaling

2542
01:34:07,750 --> 01:34:05,280
really fast in other words hollywood is

2543
01:34:11,430 --> 01:34:07,760
now starting to come together

2544
01:34:13,990 --> 01:34:11,440
to directly influence this agenda

2545
01:34:15,270 --> 01:34:14,000
and this agenda is to end the truth

2546
01:34:17,910 --> 01:34:15,280
embargo

2547
01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:17,920
because one they're no longer afraid of

2548
01:34:20,550 --> 01:34:18,400
the net

2549
01:34:23,110 --> 01:34:20,560
the military state and it's in its

2550
01:34:27,750 --> 01:34:23,120
issues about this they could give a crap

2551
01:34:30,790 --> 01:34:27,760
and two do the math

2552
01:34:34,310 --> 01:34:30,800
sometime in august perhaps within

2553
01:34:35,990 --> 01:34:34,320
seven days everybody on this planet

2554
01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:36,000
except a few tribes living in i don't

2555
01:34:38,950 --> 01:34:37,199
know the indian ocean

2556
01:34:40,310 --> 01:34:38,960
or in the middle of the amazon have been

2557
01:34:43,590 --> 01:34:40,320
alerted to jesus

2558
01:34:46,149 --> 01:34:43,600
there's an e.t presence you know and

2559
01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:46,159
and and and they're going to be slightly

2560
01:34:51,430 --> 01:34:48,480
excited about that

2561
01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:51,440
and you just happen to have a four-part

2562
01:34:55,669 --> 01:34:52,800
series

2563
01:34:58,470 --> 01:34:55,679
or a major project in the works or just

2564
01:35:00,149 --> 01:34:58,480
going forward

2565
01:35:03,109 --> 01:35:00,159
they know that there's a huge audience

2566
01:35:04,629 --> 01:35:03,119
for for e.t stuff because avatar for a

2567
01:35:06,550 --> 01:35:04,639
while was the top grossing movie in

2568
01:35:08,149 --> 01:35:06,560
history and there's four more avatars

2569
01:35:10,950 --> 01:35:08,159
ready to come out

2570
01:35:11,830 --> 01:35:10,960
they know how powerful it is and that's

2571
01:35:13,510 --> 01:35:11,840
before

2572
01:35:15,910 --> 01:35:13,520
the extraterrestrial presence is

2573
01:35:17,109 --> 01:35:15,920
confirmed and so basically the big guys

2574
01:35:18,790 --> 01:35:17,119
in hollywood are saying look the

2575
01:35:20,870 --> 01:35:18,800
government's not bothering us anymore

2576
01:35:22,470 --> 01:35:20,880
the truth embargo is coming to an end

2577
01:35:24,629 --> 01:35:22,480
and once it comes to an end looking

2578
01:35:27,350 --> 01:35:24,639
forward five years i'm seeing

2579
01:35:28,470 --> 01:35:27,360
10 12 20 30 billion dollars in revenue

2580
01:35:30,310 --> 01:35:28,480
coming from this

2581
01:35:32,070 --> 01:35:30,320
so probably we should get some high

2582
01:35:33,669 --> 01:35:32,080
level high production stuff together and

2583
01:35:36,950 --> 01:35:33,679
spare no money

2584
01:35:40,390 --> 01:35:36,960
okay so now you've got hollywood

2585
01:35:41,270 --> 01:35:40,400
coming in not with inva alien invasion

2586
01:35:47,590 --> 01:35:41,280
movies

2587
01:35:49,510 --> 01:35:47,600
what we know what could happen all the

2588
01:35:52,070 --> 01:35:49,520
disclosure things happening

2589
01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:52,080
stories about the all kinds of stories

2590
01:35:54,310 --> 01:35:53,280
they've gotten rights to going all the

2591
01:35:56,149 --> 01:35:54,320
way back to the 40s

2592
01:35:57,510 --> 01:35:56,159
of all these heroes that are now heroes

2593
01:36:01,189 --> 01:35:57,520
instead of you know

2594
01:36:03,270 --> 01:36:01,199
pin you know pinheads and and and and

2595
01:36:05,109 --> 01:36:03,280
and tin foil hat wearers suddenly they

2596
01:36:06,870 --> 01:36:05,119
become heroes

2597
01:36:08,950 --> 01:36:06,880
of the state suddenly they're getting

2598
01:36:10,470 --> 01:36:08,960
medal of freedoms i think belizando may

2599
01:36:11,350 --> 01:36:10,480
get one and so

2600
01:36:12,629 --> 01:36:11,360
you don't think they're not going to

2601
01:36:13,510 --> 01:36:12,639
make a ton of money you don't think they

2602
01:36:17,270 --> 01:36:13,520
want to

2603
01:36:20,229 --> 01:36:17,280
and so again the truth embargo is done

2604
01:36:21,990 --> 01:36:20,239
yeah neil degrasse tyson are not going

2605
01:36:24,390 --> 01:36:22,000
to be able enough to hold off

2606
01:36:26,790 --> 01:36:24,400
this 400 foot tidal wave with the

2607
01:36:28,950 --> 01:36:26,800
intellectual power of their skepticism

2608
01:36:31,030 --> 01:36:28,960
by just saying space aliens on twitter

2609
01:36:33,430 --> 01:36:31,040
over and over that's not going to do it

2610
01:36:35,109 --> 01:36:33,440
no that's not going to do it i'm sorry

2611
01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:35,119
for them i hope they don't drown in the

2612
01:36:38,310 --> 01:36:37,040
tidal wave when it finally hits but

2613
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:38,320
one last question for you if you don't

2614
01:36:42,950 --> 01:36:40,400
mind um to what extent

2615
01:36:45,270 --> 01:36:42,960
are serious journalists and news outlets

2616
01:36:47,990 --> 01:36:45,280
reaching out to you

2617
01:36:49,270 --> 01:36:48,000
not some to me i'm getting a bit of

2618
01:36:51,430 --> 01:36:49,280
press

2619
01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:51,440
i'm not able to get on i because i left

2620
01:36:53,910 --> 01:36:52,560
the country and was out of the picture

2621
01:36:55,510 --> 01:36:53,920
for a couple years when the the student

2622
01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:55,520
stars broke i really kind of fell out of

2623
01:36:59,350 --> 01:36:57,360
the rolodexes

2624
01:37:01,910 --> 01:36:59,360
i'm trying to get my way back on fox

2625
01:37:04,390 --> 01:37:01,920
msnbc cnn all the usuals i did get

2626
01:37:07,990 --> 01:37:04,400
mentioned in a washington post

2627
01:37:09,030 --> 01:37:08,000
but uh it just plus i'm a political

2628
01:37:11,830 --> 01:37:09,040
activist

2629
01:37:13,669 --> 01:37:11,840
right and by and large what they're

2630
01:37:16,629 --> 01:37:13,679
looking for is nuts and bolts right now

2631
01:37:18,070 --> 01:37:16,639
they want nuts and bolts uh uh they know

2632
01:37:19,270 --> 01:37:18,080
i have perspective but

2633
01:37:21,750 --> 01:37:19,280
they got a lot of nuts and bolts to

2634
01:37:25,109 --> 01:37:21,760
carry here you know uap report

2635
01:37:27,430 --> 01:37:25,119
all that so but i've done

2636
01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:27,440
but but then let us not forget the

2637
01:37:35,590 --> 01:37:29,520
podcast universe

2638
01:37:37,669 --> 01:37:35,600
i have set my record for interviews for

2639
01:37:41,189 --> 01:37:37,679
the first half of any year

2640
01:37:44,709 --> 01:37:41,199
98 i think uh so where does this rank

2641
01:37:47,350 --> 01:37:44,719
one two ah three this one

2642
01:37:49,189 --> 01:37:47,360
four yeah based on your background and

2643
01:37:49,830 --> 01:37:49,199
hat alone i've got to put it in the top

2644
01:37:54,070 --> 01:37:49,840
10.

2645
01:37:54,550 --> 01:37:54,080
yes plus plus i like you you're a nice

2646
01:37:57,430 --> 01:37:54,560
guy

2647
01:37:59,430 --> 01:37:57,440
um thanks i like you too and one day i'm

2648
01:38:01,030 --> 01:37:59,440
going to ask you how you ended up with a

2649
01:38:02,629 --> 01:38:01,040
witness citizen instead of citizen

2650
01:38:03,990 --> 01:38:02,639
witness probably because citizen witness

2651
01:38:05,990 --> 01:38:04,000
has been used in a lot of places

2652
01:38:07,990 --> 01:38:06,000
but then he met no no that i originally

2653
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:08,000
called it that okay fine okay but i

2654
01:38:14,310 --> 01:38:10,000
couldn't use it for a twitter handle

2655
01:38:19,109 --> 01:38:16,470
you got no you could have put citizen

2656
01:38:20,709 --> 01:38:19,119
witness 129 or something

2657
01:38:22,149 --> 01:38:20,719
no you couldn't bring yourself to do

2658
01:38:23,590 --> 01:38:22,159
that i had the same problem

2659
01:38:25,189 --> 01:38:23,600
yeah i'm not gonna go there i'm not

2660
01:38:26,149 --> 01:38:25,199
gonna i'm not gonna have some add-on

2661
01:38:29,510 --> 01:38:26,159
number

2662
01:38:35,030 --> 01:38:32,950
it's it's uh it's coming

2663
01:38:36,550 --> 01:38:35,040
to the end but oh yeah the podcast

2664
01:38:39,830 --> 01:38:36,560
universe

2665
01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:39,840
so i'm i'm mr podcast

2666
01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:42,000
i'm beloved in the podcast universe

2667
01:38:44,149 --> 01:38:43,280
there's some podcasts that won't have me

2668
01:38:47,270 --> 01:38:44,159
on uh

2669
01:38:48,870 --> 01:38:47,280
maybe but so what but the reason is

2670
01:38:50,470 --> 01:38:48,880
that's that's what i do so i get called

2671
01:38:51,669 --> 01:38:50,480
up steve can you do a podcast an hour

2672
01:38:53,830 --> 01:38:51,679
and a half absolutely

2673
01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:53,840
not set up the camera i'll do it so i've

2674
01:38:57,350 --> 01:38:55,360
done a lot of them

2675
01:38:59,430 --> 01:38:57,360
most of these 98 interviews are podcast

2676
01:39:01,590 --> 01:38:59,440
interviews or netcast interviews have

2677
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:01,600
you left that room

2678
01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:04,480
i don't have to leave this room i got

2679
01:39:07,590 --> 01:39:05,520
hey wanna see something

2680
01:39:10,149 --> 01:39:07,600
sure yes i got i got the white house

2681
01:39:12,229 --> 01:39:10,159
full 8 by 12 background

2682
01:39:14,229 --> 01:39:12,239
i've got i mean that's the capital and

2683
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:14,239
i've got the white house 8x12 background

2684
01:39:18,950 --> 01:39:17,520
this is set up as a studio my friend uh

2685
01:39:21,109 --> 01:39:18,960
so when you're like doing your

2686
01:39:21,430 --> 01:39:21,119
correspondence or something i can set up

2687
01:39:26,229 --> 01:39:21,440
in

2688
01:39:28,390 --> 01:39:26,239
so and people say well yeah yeah yeah

2689
01:39:29,109 --> 01:39:28,400
but it's not it's not fox news you know

2690
01:39:31,350 --> 01:39:29,119
whatever

2691
01:39:32,870 --> 01:39:31,360
hey you know what you know what about

2692
01:39:36,709 --> 01:39:32,880
podcasts

2693
01:39:40,070 --> 01:39:36,719
archived

2694
01:39:43,430 --> 01:39:40,080
new

2695
01:39:44,709 --> 01:39:43,440
shows okay uh so like at tucker carlson

2696
01:39:46,550 --> 01:39:44,719
show you can

2697
01:39:47,990 --> 01:39:46,560
but it's not archived so much as you

2698
01:39:49,669 --> 01:39:48,000
they don't archive it but

2699
01:39:51,109 --> 01:39:49,679
it ends up on youtube so you can find

2700
01:39:54,149 --> 01:39:51,119
them on youtube right

2701
01:39:56,390 --> 01:39:54,159
but the archived world of of of the

2702
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:56,400
citizen podcasts and netcasts

2703
01:39:59,910 --> 01:39:58,080
are developing their own kind of

2704
01:40:01,590 --> 01:39:59,920
universe yeah and so

2705
01:40:03,590 --> 01:40:01,600
you just keep throwing yourself into

2706
01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:03,600
that universe and so uh

2707
01:40:07,030 --> 01:40:06,159
uh i and i and i'm a citizen activist

2708
01:40:09,350 --> 01:40:07,040
anyway

2709
01:40:10,790 --> 01:40:09,360
i'm i mean i i'm supposed to be talking

2710
01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:10,800
to podcast

2711
01:40:16,070 --> 01:40:13,920
uh people and netcast people and not uh

2712
01:40:17,669 --> 01:40:16,080
hanging around cnn trying to sneak in

2713
01:40:18,870 --> 01:40:17,679
and get up five minutes on i don't know

2714
01:40:20,870 --> 01:40:18,880
racial matter

2715
01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:20,880
uh not that i won't take it racial i'll

2716
01:40:25,270 --> 01:40:22,400
take it i'll take it

2717
01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:25,280
so so i so so i'm getting enough

2718
01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:26,480
exposure for now

2719
01:40:30,229 --> 01:40:29,199
however i just want to let your

2720
01:40:35,590 --> 01:40:30,239
listeners know that

2721
01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:35,600
uh i have some big plans in the works

2722
01:40:39,590 --> 01:40:36,960
fake

2723
01:40:41,750 --> 01:40:39,600
plants that's all i can say right that

2724
01:40:45,030 --> 01:40:41,760
sounds very larry david of you

2725
01:40:48,149 --> 01:40:45,040
yes big plants big

2726
01:40:49,590 --> 01:40:48,159
big plants yes i can't wait

2727
01:40:51,990 --> 01:40:49,600
if you need any help with anything you

2728
01:40:54,709 --> 01:40:52,000
let me know i will let you know

2729
01:40:57,189 --> 01:40:54,719
okay yeah do you think making calls to

2730
01:41:00,390 --> 01:40:57,199
congress is effective

2731
01:41:04,070 --> 01:41:00,400
no no why not no

2732
01:41:06,470 --> 01:41:04,080
if it's a local issue with some passion

2733
01:41:08,950 --> 01:41:06,480
yeah but calling them up on these big

2734
01:41:11,669 --> 01:41:08,960
national issues and so forth

2735
01:41:12,070 --> 01:41:11,679
all you do is just piss off the staff

2736
01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:12,080
yeah

2737
01:41:17,669 --> 01:41:15,280
uh the people had taken the calls

2738
01:41:18,550 --> 01:41:17,679
uh i think some of the petitions can

2739
01:41:20,070 --> 01:41:18,560
help a little bit

2740
01:41:21,669 --> 01:41:20,080
there's one petition online that's

2741
01:41:23,270 --> 01:41:21,679
calling for uh i forget

2742
01:41:25,270 --> 01:41:23,280
congressional years i forget where it's

2743
01:41:26,390 --> 01:41:25,280
at i think it's up to 240 000 signatures

2744
01:41:28,709 --> 01:41:26,400
this is kind of okay

2745
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:28,719
but the problem is because of the mass

2746
01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:30,000
media now the mass

2747
01:41:34,550 --> 01:41:32,639
internet social media it's too easy to

2748
01:41:36,070 --> 01:41:34,560
put together 200 000 signatures so it

2749
01:41:39,510 --> 01:41:36,080
just doesn't carry the weight it used to

2750
01:41:41,350 --> 01:41:39,520
be 40 years ago oh yeah and so

2751
01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:41,360
it's hard to know what's the most

2752
01:41:44,709 --> 01:41:42,800
effective way buy a

2753
01:41:45,990 --> 01:41:44,719
large look reaching out to your your

2754
01:41:48,149 --> 01:41:46,000
senator it's and it's never

2755
01:41:49,590 --> 01:41:48,159
effective to call somebody else's state

2756
01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:49,600
senator no one's ever called me back

2757
01:41:53,109 --> 01:41:50,880
other than rubio

2758
01:41:55,109 --> 01:41:53,119
actually well you were a journalist

2759
01:41:57,270 --> 01:41:55,119
you're not just a constituent

2760
01:41:58,550 --> 01:41:57,280
right no not to them no you didn't call

2761
01:41:59,270 --> 01:41:58,560
him as a journalist you call him as a

2762
01:42:01,910 --> 01:41:59,280
citizen one

2763
01:42:03,030 --> 01:42:01,920
and he and you got a call from who rubio

2764
01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:03,040
his assistant

2765
01:42:09,590 --> 01:42:06,880
okay good for him but but remember

2766
01:42:11,270 --> 01:42:09,600
i told you rubio made it made a decision

2767
01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:11,280
here this is strategic

2768
01:42:14,470 --> 01:42:14,000
he wants that call he wants that call

2769
01:42:16,709 --> 01:42:14,480
right

2770
01:42:18,390 --> 01:42:16,719
he's getting returned yeah let me tell

2771
01:42:19,510 --> 01:42:18,400
you rubio has not always gotten good

2772
01:42:22,070 --> 01:42:19,520
press okay

2773
01:42:23,109 --> 01:42:22,080
and so that call you might get back uh

2774
01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:23,119
but are you going to get him on the

2775
01:42:27,750 --> 01:42:24,560
phone no but nevertheless

2776
01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:27,760
uh uh i don't discourage anybody from

2777
01:42:30,149 --> 01:42:28,719
surprise

2778
01:42:32,629 --> 01:42:30,159
reaching out to their members of

2779
01:42:34,870 --> 01:42:32,639
congress but i'll tell you one thing i

2780
01:42:36,629 --> 01:42:34,880
do believe

2781
01:42:38,390 --> 01:42:36,639
and and i i believe this across the

2782
01:42:41,590 --> 01:42:38,400
board

2783
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:41,600
the future of activism virtually going

2784
01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:42,000
forward

2785
01:42:47,030 --> 01:42:45,040
forever is just no longer boots on the

2786
01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:47,040
ground

2787
01:42:51,109 --> 01:42:49,440
it costs too much it's really

2788
01:42:54,830 --> 01:42:51,119
ineffective

2789
01:42:55,990 --> 01:42:54,840
and it's premised on a somewhat venal

2790
01:42:57,669 --> 01:42:56,000
idea

2791
01:42:59,510 --> 01:42:57,679
bad things happen the cameras will

2792
01:42:59,830 --> 01:42:59,520
follow it'll get a lot of news and it

2793
01:43:01,990 --> 01:42:59,840
gets

2794
01:43:03,510 --> 01:43:02,000
news and all good pr and all press all

2795
01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:03,520
presses good press

2796
01:43:08,470 --> 01:43:06,560
not to mention it's dangerous so

2797
01:43:12,390 --> 01:43:08,480
the future of activism is not boots on

2798
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:12,400
the ground it's fingers on the keyboard

2799
01:43:16,470 --> 01:43:14,400
and it's not necessarily sending a fax

2800
01:43:18,149 --> 01:43:16,480
to or i mean an email to the

2801
01:43:19,910 --> 01:43:18,159
congress people who have email anymore

2802
01:43:22,390 --> 01:43:19,920
and those are disappearing

2803
01:43:23,990 --> 01:43:22,400
it's keeping in touch with each other

2804
01:43:26,390 --> 01:43:24,000
it's promoting your own

2805
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:26,400
podcast and then it's archiving it you

2806
01:43:29,669 --> 01:43:27,840
know you set that up and you got your

2807
01:43:31,430 --> 01:43:29,679
own websites right then you got a blog

2808
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:31,440
and this and whatever

2809
01:43:36,229 --> 01:43:34,480
and it's building up and twitter

2810
01:43:38,629 --> 01:43:36,239
right uh in other words when something

2811
01:43:40,629 --> 01:43:38,639
goes viral on twitter

2812
01:43:42,229 --> 01:43:40,639
first comes this oh could you say

2813
01:43:44,629 --> 01:43:42,239
something that would make this go viral

2814
01:43:53,189 --> 01:43:48,870
i'm just kidding just kidding

2815
01:43:56,310 --> 01:43:53,199
that's my last question now for everyone

2816
01:43:58,149 --> 01:43:56,320
uh i'm thinking of something that i can

2817
01:44:00,229 --> 01:43:58,159
say that would not offend somebody and

2818
01:44:02,229 --> 01:44:00,239
i've got some good material

2819
01:44:03,430 --> 01:44:02,239
but i always have good material but

2820
01:44:06,870 --> 01:44:03,440
unfortunately

2821
01:44:10,709 --> 01:44:06,880
i think i have to censor all this uh

2822
01:44:13,109 --> 01:44:10,719
i can't i can't say it and and and and

2823
01:44:14,070 --> 01:44:13,119
and you know look i want to go god knows

2824
01:44:16,470 --> 01:44:14,080
i want to go viral

2825
01:44:18,709 --> 01:44:16,480
so do i you know okay that's why yes and

2826
01:44:21,189 --> 01:44:18,719
i've seen what goes viral

2827
01:44:23,510 --> 01:44:21,199
particularly on tick-tock yeah and i

2828
01:44:26,070 --> 01:44:23,520
realized i can't go there

2829
01:44:28,310 --> 01:44:26,080
i can't make a k-pop song yeah that's

2830
01:44:30,870 --> 01:44:28,320
not going to happen but that goes viral

2831
01:44:31,830 --> 01:44:30,880
uh yeah and i've watched it they don't

2832
01:44:33,990 --> 01:44:31,840
care

2833
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:34,000
who doesn't i play acoustic they don't

2834
01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:35,600
care

2835
01:44:38,790 --> 01:44:37,360
i think that well i think one of the i

2836
01:44:40,550 --> 01:44:38,800
think that one thing i think you can

2837
01:44:43,270 --> 01:44:40,560
kind of say

2838
01:44:44,470 --> 01:44:43,280
is that no one really knows what goes

2839
01:44:47,990 --> 01:44:44,480
what will go viral

2840
01:44:51,109 --> 01:44:48,000
it is a mystery it is a very complex

2841
01:44:52,070 --> 01:44:51,119
equation that no one can solve you can't

2842
01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:52,080
predict it

2843
01:44:57,109 --> 01:44:55,600
okay now i do think that there are some

2844
01:44:57,430 --> 01:44:57,119
people that have spent enough time at

2845
01:45:01,350 --> 01:44:57,440
this

2846
01:45:04,149 --> 01:45:01,360
that they have done deep studies

2847
01:45:06,870 --> 01:45:04,159
narrow down the area that have the

2848
01:45:08,950 --> 01:45:06,880
highest possibilities of going

2849
01:45:11,109 --> 01:45:08,960
numbers they've studied 10 000 cat

2850
01:45:13,990 --> 01:45:11,119
videos and they've narrowed it down

2851
01:45:15,990 --> 01:45:14,000
to exactly those that got high virality

2852
01:45:16,709 --> 01:45:16,000
and now the idea is can i can i create a

2853
01:45:19,830 --> 01:45:16,719
vet

2854
01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:19,840
a cat video in that air that genre and

2855
01:45:22,070 --> 01:45:21,360
i'll go viral i get a bunch of hits

2856
01:45:23,910 --> 01:45:22,080
whatever and

2857
01:45:25,910 --> 01:45:23,920
my life will get better but then they'll

2858
01:45:27,669 --> 01:45:25,920
put it out there and it'll turn out that

2859
01:45:29,669 --> 01:45:27,679
that particular genre has already burned

2860
01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:29,679
itself out nothing happens okay

2861
01:45:33,109 --> 01:45:31,920
so it's tough it's more like hitting the

2862
01:45:36,149 --> 01:45:33,119
lottery

2863
01:45:37,910 --> 01:45:36,159
right uh you have no idea

2864
01:45:39,910 --> 01:45:37,920
but you know what really broke for a

2865
01:45:41,590 --> 01:45:39,920
second

2866
01:45:45,590 --> 01:45:41,600
you want to know something about this

2867
01:45:48,790 --> 01:45:45,600
virality thing that has now gone too far

2868
01:45:51,510 --> 01:45:48,800
they call them ftps i think

2869
01:45:53,109 --> 01:45:51,520
ftps i should know what that is ftp frp

2870
01:45:56,390 --> 01:45:53,119
whatever the hell it is

2871
01:45:58,709 --> 01:45:56,400
something that 40 years ago went viral

2872
01:45:59,990 --> 01:45:58,719
and you have the original clip that was

2873
01:46:01,430 --> 01:46:00,000
put up

2874
01:46:03,910 --> 01:46:01,440
and now you're auctioning it off on a

2875
01:46:05,590 --> 01:46:03,920
goddamn internet for 2 million bucks

2876
01:46:07,189 --> 01:46:05,600
i'm going please you know what i'm

2877
01:46:09,030 --> 01:46:07,199
talking about oh

2878
01:46:10,950 --> 01:46:09,040
yes i know what you're talking about

2879
01:46:12,149 --> 01:46:10,960
yeah it's it's it's i guess you call

2880
01:46:15,510 --> 01:46:12,159
this it's kind

2881
01:46:18,310 --> 01:46:15,520
it's it's it's yeah i i don't quite

2882
01:46:20,229 --> 01:46:18,320
understand how that works but uh i know

2883
01:46:22,629 --> 01:46:20,239
it's a digital piece of artwork

2884
01:46:23,910 --> 01:46:22,639
that you buy it's it yeah okay it's

2885
01:46:25,669 --> 01:46:23,920
digital piece of artwork now what's

2886
01:46:27,109 --> 01:46:25,679
interesting about it is unlike say the

2887
01:46:28,709 --> 01:46:27,119
mona lisa

2888
01:46:30,229 --> 01:46:28,719
any digital piece of artwork could

2889
01:46:32,950 --> 01:46:30,239
already been copied 400 million times

2890
01:46:36,870 --> 01:46:32,960
can't you just save as

2891
01:46:39,030 --> 01:46:36,880
save but however somebody has come up

2892
01:46:42,470 --> 01:46:39,040
with a way

2893
01:46:45,189 --> 01:46:42,480
the original thing and so if you can

2894
01:46:49,270 --> 01:46:45,199
authenticate the original starting point

2895
01:46:53,030 --> 01:46:51,270
which is somewhat like art look one of

2896
01:46:55,030 --> 01:46:53,040
the reasons some painting may sell for

2897
01:46:58,390 --> 01:46:55,040
50 or 100 million dollars

2898
01:47:00,470 --> 01:46:58,400
is that since it was originally painted

2899
01:47:02,790 --> 01:47:00,480
it's been seen in museums and in

2900
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:02,800
reproductions and books and so forth by

2901
01:47:06,950 --> 01:47:05,040
hundreds of millions of people

2902
01:47:08,870 --> 01:47:06,960
but that's not the original but it is

2903
01:47:10,229 --> 01:47:08,880
seen and now somebody offers the

2904
01:47:11,669 --> 01:47:10,239
original and they get a hundred million

2905
01:47:13,510 --> 01:47:11,679
dollars this is kind of like that

2906
01:47:15,830 --> 01:47:13,520
but first they had to come up with a way

2907
01:47:17,270 --> 01:47:15,840
of validating how do you validate that

2908
01:47:19,990 --> 01:47:17,280
you're the first one

2909
01:47:20,550 --> 01:47:20,000
that put up this this this video about

2910
01:47:23,830 --> 01:47:20,560
the kid

2911
01:47:25,430 --> 01:47:23,840
biting his his brother's finger first

2912
01:47:26,390 --> 01:47:25,440
that was me

2913
01:47:27,669 --> 01:47:26,400
so you got to come up with those

2914
01:47:29,590 --> 01:47:27,679
documents and then you give him some

2915
01:47:31,350 --> 01:47:29,600
bonus things like okay you can use it

2916
01:47:32,390 --> 01:47:31,360
for this or whatever and the brothers

2917
01:47:34,229 --> 01:47:32,400
are going to come over

2918
01:47:35,990 --> 01:47:34,239
they're now 35 or something and have

2919
01:47:39,109 --> 01:47:36,000
dinner with you and they're getting

2920
01:47:40,790 --> 01:47:39,119
60 million bucks and i'm going

2921
01:47:42,629 --> 01:47:40,800
why can't i ever get in on [\h__\h] like

2922
01:47:45,189 --> 01:47:42,639
that

2923
01:47:47,189 --> 01:47:45,199
i dressed the entire area i missed the

2924
01:47:47,430 --> 01:47:47,199
entire crypto thing i completely missed

2925
01:47:51,590 --> 01:47:47,440
it

2926
01:47:54,070 --> 01:47:51,600
so that that ship has sailed

2927
01:47:55,669 --> 01:47:54,080
i don't i'm looking for something i've

2928
01:47:58,070 --> 01:47:55,679
got it i got in the book

2929
01:47:59,109 --> 01:47:58,080
i have something here okay here we go

2930
01:48:01,189 --> 01:47:59,119
what does it say

2931
01:48:02,830 --> 01:48:01,199
chapter one but this isn't an internet

2932
01:48:06,149 --> 01:48:02,840
thing this is like a real

2933
01:48:09,430 --> 01:48:06,159
thing this is okay

2934
01:48:09,990 --> 01:48:09,440
what this is i'm gonna back off a little

2935
01:48:13,669 --> 01:48:10,000
bit

2936
01:48:16,950 --> 01:48:13,679
hang on uh oh wow okay

2937
01:48:21,750 --> 01:48:16,960
what this is is this is

2938
01:48:25,109 --> 01:48:21,760
a a poster that was up

2939
01:48:28,149 --> 01:48:25,119
at the washington premiere

2940
01:48:32,229 --> 01:48:28,159
of steven spielberg's taken

2941
01:48:35,270 --> 01:48:32,239
in november of 2002.

2942
01:48:36,310 --> 01:48:35,280
he created this 20-hour as you know

2943
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:36,320
mini-series

2944
01:48:41,270 --> 01:48:39,520
right and which is profound

2945
01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:41,280
all about abduction and also gets into

2946
01:48:43,669 --> 01:48:42,960
the truth embargo in its own narrative

2947
01:48:45,030 --> 01:48:43,679
way

2948
01:48:47,430 --> 01:48:45,040
huge production cost hundreds of

2949
01:48:48,629 --> 01:48:47,440
millions of dollars because i think they

2950
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:48,639
thought something was going to break

2951
01:48:52,870 --> 01:48:49,840
back then

2952
01:48:55,669 --> 01:48:52,880
you see it was the sci-fi channel

2953
01:48:57,270 --> 01:48:55,679
that uh put out the series but it's also

2954
01:48:58,790 --> 01:48:57,280
the sci-fi channel that put the money

2955
01:49:00,550 --> 01:48:58,800
behind a coalition for freedom of

2956
01:49:02,629 --> 01:49:00,560
information that was launched

2957
01:49:04,709 --> 01:49:02,639
just before this premiere and that's

2958
01:49:05,830 --> 01:49:04,719
when john podesta got up in front at the

2959
01:49:07,510 --> 01:49:05,840
beginning of it and said we need to

2960
01:49:07,910 --> 01:49:07,520
release all the ufo files you follow it

2961
01:49:10,310 --> 01:49:07,920
again

2962
01:49:11,590 --> 01:49:10,320
okay so they're thinking this thing is

2963
01:49:12,790 --> 01:49:11,600
breaking and we're going to put the

2964
01:49:16,790 --> 01:49:12,800
series out

2965
01:49:19,750 --> 01:49:16,800
okay so they had a number of these up

2966
01:49:21,430 --> 01:49:19,760
and and by the way i went this this was

2967
01:49:23,109 --> 01:49:21,440
at the reagan building the billion

2968
01:49:25,109 --> 01:49:23,119
dollar reagan building

2969
01:49:26,229 --> 01:49:25,119
and so and which was and so i go there

2970
01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:26,239
and it's like they got a lot of

2971
01:49:28,870 --> 01:49:27,360
high-powered people there they're going

2972
01:49:31,750 --> 01:49:28,880
to show the first two episodes

2973
01:49:33,669 --> 01:49:31,760
as a premier there's these white glove

2974
01:49:35,750 --> 01:49:33,679
waiters walking around with silver

2975
01:49:36,790 --> 01:49:35,760
platters covered with top quality hors

2976
01:49:39,270 --> 01:49:36,800
d'oeuvres i mean

2977
01:49:40,629 --> 01:49:39,280
and this is for a a series about

2978
01:49:42,229 --> 01:49:40,639
abduction okay i mean so

2979
01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:42,239
you can kind of see why steve might have

2980
01:49:45,030 --> 01:49:43,840
been thinking i think things are moving

2981
01:49:49,350 --> 01:49:45,040
forward again right

2982
01:49:53,270 --> 01:49:49,360
right so anyway all i got for that

2983
01:49:56,709 --> 01:49:53,280
was this poster but it is signed

2984
01:49:58,390 --> 01:49:56,719
by me michael

2985
01:49:59,750 --> 01:49:58,400
it is signed by larry landsman who work

2986
01:50:02,950 --> 01:49:59,760
for the sci-fi channel

2987
01:50:06,390 --> 01:50:02,960
it's signed by danny sheehan it's signed

2988
01:50:09,350 --> 01:50:06,400
by richard dolan bud hopkins wow

2989
01:50:11,350 --> 01:50:09,360
larry bryant the uh the uh the uh the

2990
01:50:14,870 --> 01:50:11,360
activists from that era

2991
01:50:17,189 --> 01:50:14,880
and it's also signed by peter robbins

2992
01:50:18,470 --> 01:50:17,199
so these are some pretty well-known

2993
01:50:22,310 --> 01:50:18,480
people and so

2994
01:50:24,709 --> 01:50:22,320
i'm thinking after disclosure

2995
01:50:26,550 --> 01:50:24,719
you're gonna sell this [\h__\h] maybe get

2996
01:50:27,750 --> 01:50:26,560
maybe 400 000 or something what do you

2997
01:50:31,189 --> 01:50:27,760
think

2998
01:50:34,070 --> 01:50:31,199
uh yeah yeah probably so that's about

2999
01:50:35,910 --> 01:50:34,080
all i got that's all i got

3000
01:50:38,790 --> 01:50:35,920
more than i got i could put up the

3001
01:50:40,629 --> 01:50:38,800
original you know paradigm research

3002
01:50:42,390 --> 01:50:40,639
group website which was absolutely crap

3003
01:50:45,109 --> 01:50:42,400
i did it with front page

3004
01:50:46,070 --> 01:50:45,119
uh back in 1999 and it was still up as

3005
01:50:49,830 --> 01:50:46,080
front page site

3006
01:50:53,109 --> 01:50:49,840
until 2018 that shows you how driven i

3007
01:50:56,229 --> 01:50:53,119
am to be cutting edge that that site

3008
01:50:59,830 --> 01:50:56,239
which was like it was a

3009
01:51:02,310 --> 01:50:59,840
it was a shag rug of websites uh

3010
01:51:03,430 --> 01:51:02,320
probably cost me 50 of my potential

3011
01:51:05,430 --> 01:51:03,440
career right there

3012
01:51:06,870 --> 01:51:05,440
but then i finally upgraded to wordpress

3013
01:51:08,229 --> 01:51:06,880
which i i mastered in

3014
01:51:10,070 --> 01:51:08,239
four weeks but almost had a nervous

3015
01:51:11,270 --> 01:51:10,080
breakdown and my site is quality my

3016
01:51:13,430 --> 01:51:11,280
site's a good sign

3017
01:51:15,189 --> 01:51:13,440
but the first one because the first one

3018
01:51:18,229 --> 01:51:15,199
i should have all kinds of

3019
01:51:20,950 --> 01:51:18,239
this internet verification value

3020
01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:20,960
so uh maybe i can maybe i can sell that

3021
01:51:23,669 --> 01:51:22,480
post-disclosure in order to have

3022
01:51:25,430 --> 01:51:23,679
comfortable senior

3023
01:51:27,270 --> 01:51:25,440
i hear what you do just rate me in for a

3024
01:51:28,310 --> 01:51:27,280
cut yeah i'll give you a percentage if

3025
01:51:28,870 --> 01:51:28,320
you promote it i'll give you a

3026
01:51:31,990 --> 01:51:28,880
percentage

3027
01:51:35,510 --> 01:51:32,000
sure i'll get a tattoo

3028
01:51:37,350 --> 01:51:35,520
okay witness citizen sean it's uh

3029
01:51:39,350 --> 01:51:37,360
it's getting late here i'm gonna go to

3030
01:51:41,030 --> 01:51:39,360
bed yeah i gotta go to bed

3031
01:51:42,470 --> 01:51:41,040
you this has been great you're the kind

3032
01:51:43,189 --> 01:51:42,480
of host i can do my thing with you know

3033
01:51:45,669 --> 01:51:43,199
what i'm saying

3034
01:51:46,550 --> 01:51:45,679
yes and i really had a great time

3035
01:51:50,390 --> 01:51:46,560
talking to you

3036
01:51:54,950 --> 01:51:52,550
so hopefully i get another opportunity

3037
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:54,960
my brain is eminently pickable

3038
01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:56,400
so you need you need to get in there

3039
01:52:00,470 --> 01:51:59,040
before any too much more memory holes

3040
01:52:02,310 --> 01:52:00,480
develop because they're starting to show

3041
01:52:03,669 --> 01:52:02,320
up let me tell you oh really

3042
01:52:05,270 --> 01:52:03,679
i'll be trying to pull up the name of

3043
01:52:07,030 --> 01:52:05,280
one of the most famous rock stars of the

3044
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:07,040
1970s it ain't there

3045
01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:08,320
it's not there i don't think there was

3046
01:52:15,270 --> 01:52:12,159
many in the 70s okay 60s

3047
01:52:17,750 --> 01:52:15,280
60s 50s doesn't matter things are just

3048
01:52:19,430 --> 01:52:17,760
not there okay when i go to get them

3049
01:52:20,550 --> 01:52:19,440
it's like opening up your underwear

3050
01:52:22,629 --> 01:52:20,560
drawer and there's no

3051
01:52:23,830 --> 01:52:22,639
underwear in there and there absolutely

3052
01:52:25,669 --> 01:52:23,840
should be underwear

3053
01:52:26,870 --> 01:52:25,679
and you're going what the hell am i

3054
01:52:28,550 --> 01:52:26,880
going to do

3055
01:52:31,270 --> 01:52:28,560
and so you start looking through other

3056
01:52:32,390 --> 01:52:31,280
doors oh i just go commando i don't wear

3057
01:52:35,830 --> 01:52:32,400
anything

3058
01:52:43,350 --> 01:52:39,750
well good for you isn't that

3059
01:52:46,149 --> 01:52:43,360
special all right look i gotta go okay

3060
01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:46,159
all right on that note all right uh i

3061
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:47,440
really appreciate your time

3062
01:52:51,030 --> 01:52:50,159
and everybody go you know who he is and

3063
01:52:53,589 --> 01:52:51,040
where to find them

3064
01:52:54,550 --> 01:52:53,599
uh we'll do this again i promise all

3065
01:52:58,550 --> 01:52:54,560
right thank you okay

3066
01:53:01,350 --> 01:52:58,560
have a good night bye all right that was

3067
01:53:01,990 --> 01:53:01,360
fantastic i had a great time uh with

3068
01:53:04,629 --> 01:53:02,000
steven

3069
01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:04,639
um we almost did two hours and i didn't

3070
01:53:08,390 --> 01:53:05,520
even notice

3071
01:53:10,830 --> 01:53:08,400
so i really appreciate uh that he took

3072
01:53:13,510 --> 01:53:10,840
time out of his day to do this

3073
01:53:14,790 --> 01:53:13,520
um man i'm someone who likes to learn

3074
01:53:17,990 --> 01:53:14,800
something new every day so

3075
01:53:22,550 --> 01:53:18,000
i could go forever with that guy so um

3076
01:53:25,189 --> 01:53:22,560
had a great time and

3077
01:53:26,149 --> 01:53:25,199
we'll see tomorrow with mr jesse pake

3078
01:53:27,910 --> 01:53:26,159
who's been in the

3079
01:53:29,510 --> 01:53:27,920
audience tonight and i really appreciate

3080
01:53:33,030 --> 01:53:29,520
it he is a

3081
01:53:34,470 --> 01:53:33,040
field investigator for mufon and

3082
01:53:36,550 --> 01:53:34,480
we might have some other cool stuff

3083
01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:36,560
going on uh like some special guests

3084
01:53:42,950 --> 01:53:38,880
from across the pond

3085
01:53:44,950 --> 01:53:42,960
possibly so stay tuned uh like subscribe

3086
01:53:47,430 --> 01:53:44,960
my youtube page all that stuff i

3087
01:53:48,950 --> 01:53:47,440
can't keep you know doing this without

3088
01:53:53,270 --> 01:53:48,960
support from you guys

3089
01:53:56,310 --> 01:53:53,280
so if you liked um the the conversation

3090
01:53:57,589 --> 01:53:56,320
um all i ask is that you um share and

3091
01:54:00,870 --> 01:53:57,599
subscribe

3092
01:54:04,149 --> 01:54:00,880
stuff um and that's it and i will

3093
01:54:12,629 --> 01:54:04,159
see you tomorrow much love

3094
01:54:24,660 --> 01:54:23,669
i am witness citizen